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No Christmas for gays - Remember, they don't believe in God and hate religious groups
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Andre Tice
2011-12-25 02:24:00 UTC
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The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Samuel Harrigon
2011-12-25 02:33:56 UTC
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Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.

Rev. Samuel Harrigon
-Good Old Gospel Ship Church
dolf
2011-12-25 03:08:28 UTC
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I have sent the following reply to the person I was dialoging with and
whom has hysterically mischaracterised my substantive view.

I will not enter into the futility of your response excepting to say
that I have a niece who has Filipino mother (the father of Dutch /
Friesian origins has had the sense to have a vasectomy) and I am
entitled to challenge you on facts your no Asian and no willy comments
as projections of your values which ought not be made in your profile.

But I have place them into the public arena by disseminating your
comments into Google Groups as part of my Christmas philanthropy and
will also in the next chapter of my book.

You can search for it under the title "YOUR BUTT IS SOMETHING TO BE
PROUD OF BOY!"

I have Manhunt Support Services contact me with a false characterisation
of my statements--that such a complaint is a malicious (and
unforgivable) act and is certainly not in keeping with your Christmas
tone of your msg.
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell. Those who do not
celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
Rev. Samuel Harrigon -Good Old Gospel Ship Church
The escort said to me this morning as his homage and ability to
recognise my majesty in simplicity of being: "Dolf I just woke up and
want to say thank you for your understanding and patience."

I said, "I've had restful periods but no sleep as yet.

I'm still of the opinion, it was a great opportunity to meet you and
there was no more advantageous time than just before Christmas--and so
pleased that all issues of hospitality were so easy to organise.

I hope we catch up again. dolf"

He said, "U write like Charles Dickens. Was he on crack"

I said, "Language comes from inner being and experience--I don't have
any shame in the use of a wide vocabulary."

He said, "Touche!"

I said to my boy, "You know my sweet boy, he was jealous that I had a
boy like you. And that gave me a greater sense of satisfaction than his
cock would ever give.

I had conveyed to him that I had done much work in preparation by your
handiwork to his manhood.

He enjoyed my hospitality for 12 hours and wants me as a buddy--so
enamored was he."

He is Monet's equal and I will wash my body with the once used soap
which bears his impression of being so that when the scum of day is
washed away, he yet remains with me."

I had given him on CD ROM a copy of www-page and work in progress
representing some 16 years of labour, and said to him and another buddy
who because my welcome of him included his friends, "This is a work as
technological solution of a metaphysical, philosophical and theological
nature which is designed to use the provocation of sexuality as weapon
of war against religious militancy and provides the justification for
the adoption of legislative changes necessary to grant gays and lesbians
the right to marry.

And that this work has been undertaken by an individual who as a
statement of public record, engages in recreational sexual activity with
a multitude, so that gay men and lesbians who have aspirations for
marriage, may never claim by such act, any moral or integral superiority
or an act of fidelity towards the soul of another and against my
lifestyle choice."

I have stood against the impiety and haughtiness which is gay culture
and excepting for a few whom I am most proud, for the rest I have no
regard for.

Whilst I also have no female friends in my life, I do care enough about
my community. And during the course of disposing of insulin related
items as biological waste at the exchange, I was wished a Merry
Christmas by a woman there--so I went home and gave her a copy on CD ROM
as well.

Keep your soul sister, and Merry Christmas to you too.

I had given to my boy a copy of my book on CD ROM as a Christmas gift
for his 75 yo Grandmother who is Catholic with a knowledge that the
author of this work was the same individual who stood in defiance with
an escort as the only friends in support of the Gay and Lesbian Rainbow
Sash Protests against Roman Catholic refusal of communion.

I share a special bond with my boy. On the same ANZAC DAY he killed a
man, by recklessly throwing a glass and wounding him in the face, the
force so great that he stumbled back and struck his head as he fell.
The brain injury as swelling which resulted, then killed him.

My boy went to prison for 15 months, and if I were to fuck him in the
manner he was there--it would be considered abuse.

But I've told him that I'm looking forward to fucking him exceptionally
well he gets back.

He knows that I protested on that same ANZAC Day against the pornography
which was Private Jack Kovco's perverse premeditated conduct as
otherwise inconsequential life in making a video documentary of his
military service as self promotion--As grounds for his reckless and
intended behaviour in frustrating accepted policy on disarmament in the
company of others and his overtly repulsive effeminate mannerism as
contrivance of gay identity by prancing in underwear--He terminated his
life.

He was no hero and I was glad his body did not make it back in time so
as to not interfere on the sensibilities of ANZAC Day. And neither was
my dawn watch with Today Program TV crew at the Briagolong War Memorial
a futile act.

Later that day, I stood in my own Rainbow Sash protest against the life
of private Jack Kovco--and in the course of which I was arrested and
lodged in the watch house until the ceremony of the day was undertaken.

I was struck with such force that it hurt for weeks afterwards. For
some considerable time, I was subject to humiliation by being placed in
the cage within the police vehicle immediately outside the hotel and to
the enjoyment of the patrons within. So I asked for God to take his
vengeance on them.

And I took solace in fact that God had previously for me, exercised his
power as providence by road kill (just meters away), a pedestrian who
staggered home one night just prior to my relocation there--the same man
who had insulted me as a gay man on the night I was making my decision
to live there, and went to the pub to meet the locals: I had bought him
a drink as a sop--drink and die was my desire for him that night.

It is a matter of record, as psychiatric notes in a medical file of my
voluntary undertaking such an assessment--and this medical opinion made
much of the fact that I was so disturbed at the conduct of private Jack
Kovco as the reckless conduct towards to the State as self harming
behaviour in putting a bullet to his head.

The psychiatrist could not comprehend any connectedness between the
events of Jack Kovco's fiasco and my own activities as cause for protest
in outrage to the offence to my sensibilities which Kovco's conduct
caused. And neither is he aware, that unless my twin-sister who worked
as a doctor's clinical nurse in that community and therefore personally
knew Jake Kovco's mother--that unless she recants her support of the
family view as the only and substantial reality to which they bow in
subservience, there is nothing further between us and I will not so much
as attend her funeral should she depart before me.

And on that ANZAC day, I have no doubt of God's handiwork as he mocked
them--the earth shook violently and three men were taken prisoner and
held for contempt in an underground mine. And in watch care of my soul
and that of my boy--a life was crushed that day.

And later there was a journalist deprived of life as well--one minute he
was standing by the mine in the company of his peers attending to a
story which held the nation anxious and the next he was dead.

And if I was to say that the Equal Opportunity Commissioner of Victoria
is deserving of such a bullet to the head, as I did in a document
written some 6 months earlier and given to my then General Practitioner
Dr. Mark Bloch of Holdsworthy House because I presumptuously believed
his Jewish heritage, would be of some merit in his capacity to
understand the document before him.

Without ever entering into any discussion (then or subsequent) on the
nature, purpose and intent of my 16 years labour then in progress and
some 700 km distance away from the Commissioner described by that
colourful reference, this perverse Jewish doctor, falsely characterised
my conduct as threatening and it resulted in six police breaking down
the door of my apartment-to forcibly arrest me. My protest of their
actions simply became justification for they're detaining me for
psychiatric assessment for a period of three weeks--I was released only
when I underwent a spinal lumber puncture so that a cerebral viral load
could be determined and the hypothesis disproved, that a disease state
was not having any consequential influence on my psychological health
and the non-existent ground which drove their claim for action.

Whilst subject to that administrative process as the pleasure of the
State, my apartment remained unsecured and I was burgled and subject to
a loss of some $16,000. And no-one wishes to be accountable for that loss.

I had a discussion with my guest as escort about his experience with my
previous General Practitioner. And specifically of my considerations to
take legal him and whether I ought to embitter my life by that action
consuming it all.

He was also present and my counsellor, when my Jewish neighbour SMS'd me
and characterised my description of the strata of male / female
transformative prototypes as mathematical descriptors of daemons which
comprise the Grapple Cube."

My Jewish neighbour: "Is this a joke?"

I said, "No it is actually true and factual and supported by empirical
data."

My Jewish neighbour: "Ok. I read it 5 times and still didn't get it.
Too much jargon and too information dense for me."

I said, "You don't even understand Kabbalah so what is your opinion worth?"

My Jewish neighbour: "Wow, arrogant AND pretentious? Nice."

I said, "Not at all, if you had an understanding of the basic model of
Kabbalah you would known the elements of that structure.

I showed you the two books on this area of Kabbalah focus by Rabbi Aryeh
Kaplan."

My Jewish neighbour: "When? Over Grindr while I was out wandering the
streets? I don't remember that but granted it isn't a niche I'm at all
interested in."

I said, "When you came to my apartment and had sex.

The two chapters which deal with the subject are conveyed in the
Cruising and Mens Rea tabs of my www-page."

All that I need do is hold my previous General Practitioner Mark Bloch
in public disdain--neither my boy who killed a man on ANZAC Day and my
own protest of the day are matters we should have shame over--But there
is contempt to our Australia values which Doctor Mark Bloch has shown by
his lack of regard as a grievance of soul, he will not live with any
hope for eternity and his privileged life in our society will now cease
because to them he must give account.

And today I have set that course in motion by responding to the cultural
values expressed in a Manhunt profile, by an Elizabeth Bay neighbour as
a 33yo gay man of "Lithuanian, German, Filipino and Spanish" heritage.

CANGANTISMO said, "Up to meet guys for social connection or fun. I'm
creative and like film. Been living in Brisbane most of the year. Now
back and glad to be so.

Message me if you want me to unlock face pics, or have something fun to
say. I'm not perfect and I don't expect you to be -- but I do love to
connect with people who are intelligent and playful.

Pls don't message me if your only photos are of your willie. We're all
male, after all.

Also, a little note to those who have "no asians" on their profile: I'm
part Lithuanian, part German, part Filipino*, part Spanish. I'll leave
you to puzzle over the ratio if that's important to you"

I said, "I've got some news for you mate:

When one see's a man with a good sized cock having a piss by a tree in
Kings Cross, the best thing to do is star and say nice cock dude. And
man with a with a sense of pride in their manhood would have pleasure in
that remark.

I have nothing to do with any gay asian (Chinese particularly but non
exclusively) because they have no connectedness with their culture as
knowledge of I Ching and Dao Te Ching as regimes of regulated governance
and belief which to have been abandoned under communism.

As there remains common attribute of mind between us--I don't regard
them. I raise this in debate with one individual asian and had to
concede my point.

My advice as a person of Dutch / Friesian heritage which as a mindset
and lifestyle in this country is always depreciated by Australians of
Anglo-Celtic origins and especially of immigrants--the notion of
indigenous dutch australians doesn't even enter into Australian
vernacular as lexicon.

Whilst a bastard status of yours as cesspool conglomeration is viewed as
a virtue--it is not and neither ought our superior heritage and values
be values be impugned by your barbarism.

I have after all a model of soul and eternity which is able to exercise
a mode of exclusion as revenge on those societies which produced you as
probably a catholic dog.

So shut the fuck up, and modify your profile."

CANGANTISMO said, "Will I shut up, and will I modify my profile? In a
word: No.

Fortunately for me, my profile is something you do not have control
over. So, if you have a big investment in other people modifying
themselves to fit your ideals, then you deserve the disappointment that
is your just reward.

Some information for you:

1) I Ching/ Dao Te Ching originates from a Chinese tradition. There are
other asian countries besides China, which have different cultural/
ideological histories.

2) Not all asian countries have a political history that includes
communism. This is particularly true of south-east asian countries.

3) You seem to have misunderstood my profile. The point I am making is
that genetic heritage does not predispose a person to particular
personality traits or ideologies. People should be taken as they are at
face value.

Having a particular racial makeup does not mean that you should then be
assigned a specific cultural ideal to live up to. To use a concrete
example: I was born in the Philippines to a Filipina mother --> I do not
deserve to be accused of betraying Daoist ideals through communism.
Surely this is just common sense.

4) Your statements are not "news to me". The kind of rant I have just
heard from you is not unique or particularly inspired. It's not as
though I haven't encountered people like you before.

So anyway, chill out and have a good Christmas. And might I suggest
engaging in a few hobbies that might help with anger management."

I said, "There is no common ground between you and I. And there is now
included an antagonistic to our Australian values as ANZAC
heritage--which will reduce you to silence: this is my Christmas story 2011.

You substantiate my claim that gay men particularly in the Kings Cross /
Darlinghurst area are not worth knowing--And I will not accept their
haughtiness or any Asian persons making claims on our freedom when you
have no modesty about your lack of piety as repentance--There is no
regard between us. And I will hold firmly those views until there a
proper dignity afforded to my own actions.

Neither my boy nor I have to feel any sense of shame in having
transgressed values which are most sacred as our ANZAC tradition--but
you are antagonistic to those traditions and there will be no joyous
peace of soul for you.

The force of public opinion about the truth of this story, will
invariably have a consequence upon you.

Merry Christmas to my friends and I hope you like my gift.

- www.grapple369.com
Colanth
2011-12-25 04:13:21 UTC
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
It's your hell, so you go to it.
duke
2011-12-26 12:05:40 UTC
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Post by Colanth
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
It's your hell, so you go to it.
Unfortunately for you, it's yours too.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
Paul Duca
2011-12-26 23:22:17 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Colanth
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
It's your hell, so you go to it.
Unfortunately for you, it's yours too.
Sounds like Duke might be your butt-buddy there...

Paul
Colanth
2011-12-27 15:42:54 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:22:17 -0800 (PST), Paul Duca
Post by Paul Duca
Post by duke
Post by Colanth
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
It's your hell, so you go to it.
Unfortunately for you, it's yours too.
Sounds like Duke might be your butt-buddy there...
Did you have to mention something that disgusting so close to July
4th? (Have you ever SEEN Puke?)
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush
Budikka666
2011-12-27 00:25:25 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by Colanth
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
It's your hell, so you go to it.
Unfortunately for you, it's yours too.
Since you can provide no evidence for any of your inane fairy takes,
as you've openly admtited here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/983273c63eeeb936/af6e0ef884870c35#af6e0ef884870c35
the only thing that's worth noting in your above message is your
hatred and bigotry towards those who are different from you. Is that
what Jesus would do?

You know, the *only* lasting impression jerk-wads like you, Loirbaj,
Rat Prick, Us4Lying et all leave on the world wide web is what
intolerant, lying, cowardly vacuous bigoted hypocrites you are.
You've proven repeatedly that you are quite ready to abandon every
last one of your supposed Christian principles at the drop of a hat.

Good luck with trying to win people over to *your* hatred-filled
faith, jackass.

Budikka
duke
2011-12-27 12:26:14 UTC
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Post by Budikka666
Since you can provide no evidence for any of your inane fairy takes,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/983273c63eeeb936/af6e0ef884870c35#af6e0ef884870c35
the only thing that's worth noting in your above message is your
hatred and bigotry towards those who are different from you. Is that
what Jesus would do?
Caca, you never offer retort - NEVER. You just duck and run because you can't
support your position, and your reference post shows that - always.
Post by Budikka666
Good luck with trying to win people over to *your* hatred-filled
faith, jackass.
Budikka
Heeheehee.


The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
Budikka666
2011-12-27 14:22:34 UTC
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Here's an abridged list of threads in which Duke has been asked
serious questions about his position, from which he has run like
diarrhea. Unlike Duck Egg Duke, who can make claims but who RUNS from
all requests that he support those claims (see the very first item in
the list for details of his most recent cowardice, here's
documentation of Duke's refusal to witness for his god.


Most recently, there's this one:

Dec 26th, 2011

Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
*given* *a* *second* *chance* to produce it, he fled the challenge!

http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn



Dec. 24th 2011

Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
challenged to produce it, he fled the challenge!

http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q



Sept. 5th 2011

asked for evidence for this Jesus of his. Duck & Run ducked & ran!

http://tinyurl.com/3brposl





On January 22, 2011, under the title: "Chicken Duke Has a Beautifully
Clean Pair of heels Does he Not?" I requested "Please provide
independent evidence - that is, from *outside* the Bible - that there
ever was a Jesus Christ, miracle working son of a god."

Chicken Duke couldn't do it.

http://tinyurl.com/4h6wdzm



Then there was this:

http://tinyurl.com/4dk7aoz

Jan 16, 2011, I requested this of Chicken Duke:

please provide *positive* *scientific* evidence for a creator or for a
creation, and post it right here in response to this message.

This was in response to his assertion that "Existence mandates
creation".

He ran away.



http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j

December 22nd 2010, in which Chicken Duke was challenged to support
statements he has made repeatedly on Usenet. Once again he ran from
them like the stinking diarrhea he is and hid behind an irrelevant and
dishoenst non-sequitur.



Prior to that he ran from a similar challenge just the day before(!):

He ran from a challenge to support his bullshit on December 21st,
2010:

http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j



And just the month before that:

http://tinyurl.com/2d5xtf3



November 20th 2010, he ran form these five simple questions rather
than support his god, thereby proving that he's nothing but another
limp Peter at the passion!



Here are the questions:

1. That the figure you quoted is true.

2. That they all believe in the *same* deity.

3. That this single deity actually exists

4. That this single deity actually created the universe

5. That this single deity is not a figment of their imagination

Here's my prediction at the time:

Time to show us that clean pair of heels again, Chicken Duck & Run.

Yep - he ran!



Claimed there are "gargantuan holes" in the Theory of Evolution and
then RAN when I called him on it:

http://tinyurl.com/27kf2da



The entire "Why There Isn't a God" series, started here:

http://tinyurl.com/6b9et



Duck & Run Ran Away - that is to say he failed 100% to actually get to
grips with the subject matter in any of those threads, his 'response'
consisting solely of chanting "no it isn't" or words to that effect.
He could offer no rebuttal, let alone refutation, he could not support
a single thing he claimed and he could offer zero rationale for his
position.



Let's face it, on this basis, he's run away from the entire "Why the
Holy Bible Lies" series, the entire "Why There Was No Flood" series,
and all of the the "Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid"
series so far.



Petition to Save the Hubble Telescope

Duck & Run makes yet another blind claim "it's the same old sky" he
blathers, like there couldn't possibly be anything new to discover,
yet I proved him entirely wrong - again.

http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz



Scientists find new face on back of Turin shroud

http://tinyurl.com/2bx6jcf

Duck & Run, shrouded in cowardice, ran away.



The Inquisition

http://tinyurl.com/4pokf

Duck & Run didn't expect the inquisition....



Another Problem for Creation IDiots

http://tinyurl.com/3px9j

Duck & Run proved to be a creation IDiot.



Human aspect of Jesus

http://tinyurl.com/4w488

Duck and Run has provided us with a de facto admission that there was
no Jesus Christ, miracle-working son-of-a-god.



Jesus's three days sacrifice

http://tinyurl.com/3jhop

Duck & Run sacrificed the truth and got caught.



Which is the real God???

http://tinyurl.com/6bnoo

Duck & Run didn't know.



God isn't very smart about spreading his word, is he?

http://tinyurl.com/7xjux

Neither is Duck & Run.



Why did Mekkla run away from a discussion of Heb 8:7-13?

http://tinyurl.com/4v759

Duck & Run opened this thread to accuse someone else of running away.
As soon as he was challenged, Duck & Run ran away!



Why Didn't Jesus Die Sooner?

http://tinyurl.com/5gevm

Duck & Run's claims died sooner.



Why is Duke Such a Coward?

http://tinyurl.com/5p3qt

Duck & Run ran away, proving what a coward he is.



Duck & Run's five evidences of god

(that he later admitted were not evidences):

http://tinyurl.com/3otzr



Questions that Duke Can't Answer

(in which I accused Duck & Run of running away and from which
he...**RAN AWAY**! The questions remain unanswered. There are only
ten numbered questions in this thread, assembled from previous threads
from which

Duck & Run ran away. Duck & Run lied there were 75 questions
and...ran away!)

http://tinyurl.com/5ozyl



There are now well over one hundred unanswered questions that Duck &
Run has fled. Here's the bulk of them:

http://tinyurl.com/ad89u

http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y



Duck & Run thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven
centuries, gave rise to Mithraism:

http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk

Duck & Run ran away.



Duke: Global Flood Challenge

A thread which I opened specifically at Duck & Run's request, and from
which he, predictably, ran away. He admitted there is no evidence for
a global flood, I presented abundant evidence that there never was
one,

Duck & Run offered zero rebuttal and ran away as he again did in the
recent flood series.

http://tinyurl.com/4l83y



Evidence that Duke can't refute:

http://tinyurl.com/5l2av

Duck & Run failed to refute the evidence and ran away, thereby proving
my case



An Answer to Pascal's Wager

http://tinyurl.com/4y63n

In which I accuse Duck & Run of running away. He ran away!



Thread: "Why Puke is Such a Pathological, Unregenerate, Cowardly,
Lying, Hypocritical Asshole"

http://tinyurl.com/4ant3

Duck & Run ran away because he's a pathological, unregenerate,
cowardly, lying hypocritical asshole.



Thread: "Duke's Chronic lying"

http://tinyurl.com/3ra8l

Duck & Run ran away.



Thread: "aqotm - bud(ikka) style"

http://tinyurl.com/4r4gz

Duck & Run ran away from his own clueless stupidity



Thread: "Duke: Global Flood Challenge"

http://tinyurl.com/3qd5m

Duck & Run was out of his depth - as he's recently proven again - and
so he...ran away!



Thread: "The Bland Assumption of Jesus' Existence"

http://tinyurl.com/5kj3m

Duck & Run ran away as I blandly assumed he would.



Thread: "Running Scriptural Circles Around Duke"

http://tinyurl.com/3ozwo

Duck & Run ran away after I ran scriptural circles around him



And my favorite:

http://tinyurl.com/487vc

This was a cowardly thread Duck & Run opened titled "Budikka Runs
Away". He set this up because he was peeved that he didn't get an
instant response from me in another thread! He never told me he'd
opened this alternate thread, yet he accused me of running away in
it! LoL! When I finally happened across it and challenged him in it,
he ran away! How pathetic is that?!



And more than once/month for an entire 12 month period starting April
2009:

April 21st, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzywu7q

July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrmfxp

August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4

September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8

October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53

November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf

November 19th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yj64yqj

November 20th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrkvyh

November 22nd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ycw6s8l

November 25th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d

November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakpje3

November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d

December 5th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzt9f4m

December 7th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yllcb6q

December 8th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybzvv33

December 13th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakex6v

December 23rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y9k8kpv

January 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnesb2

January 24th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l

January 27th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycgm8u8

January 31st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo

February 3rd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l

February 15th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjjj93v

February 16th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo

February 22nd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ye59brz

March 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ykgtezr

March 6th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjhe3fe

March 9th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnahkb

March 11th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yl8hcea



The best comment from him was in alt.atheism on January 5th, 2004, at
5:46 pm when he said, "I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things,
but I've never heard myself think." (http://tinyurl.com/f48bq). This
explains everything, including why he's such a gashole. All he can do
is impotently snipe at people, since he has nothing of value or
intelligence to say and he demonstrably cannot support a single claim
he makes.



He has no proof, no evidence - not even an intelligent argument. He
does not think because he cannot. He's quite loco, and like a loco,
he's stuck on a pair of narrow rails. He has no clue he's on them,
let alone how to get off. And the track to which he's limited leads
to a dead end - which he hilariously thinks is "Heaven"!



The best "evidence" of a god he was ever capable of producing was a
lackluster five items he posted in thread "Scientists find new face on
back of Turin shroud" in a.a. on April 18 2004, 9:52 am:

http://tinyurl.com/c6hkg.



He appears to have appropriated "his" five evidences from Thomas
Aquinas who, c1245, published "Summa theologiae" which contained five
"Ways" to "prove" some god's existence, all of which have been
thoroughly discredited.



He admitted his "own" five ways were nothing but blind belief in alt
atheism in a thread called "The Inquisition" message posted on
Saturday, 12 June, 2004 11:52am:

http://tinyurl.com/bc5ud

but that was all he could do after the massive pounding he got.



I used those same five items in a spoof edition of my "Why There is no
God" series (http://tinyurl.com/bz54w). I changed a word here and
there and all of his five "evidences" miraculously became evidence for
the non-existence of a god! Naturally I didn't count them in the 666
since they were so pathetic.



His comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation. Neither are his comments aimed at the
material - they rarely are. He's incapable of having a rational
exchange on a topic. He spits out idiocy and insult and runs away.



His comments are not designed to enlighten, help, or exchange
anything, but to abuse people. He's the very antithesis of this
purported Christian love he's supposed to dispense.



He never documents or supports a single thing he says, whereas the
cowardice and lies of this pathetic hypocrite for Christ have been
fully documented on Usenet. His despicable behavior and his
slanderous unfounded charges (he thinks turning the other cheek means
mooning someone) are why he was mass-plonked by pretty near the entire
regular set on a.a.:

http://tinyurl.com/9gycg



It's a sign of how pathetic he is, how low he's sinking and how
desperate he's become since he was cut off, that he now has to beg for
atheists to talk to him by posting inane rants against us - this from
the guy who claims to be a Christian, who claims to do unto others as
he would be done by, and who lies about turning the other cheek!



His cowardice in "debate" or even discussion is legendary:

1. http://tinyurl.com/ac2vg

2. http://tinyurl.com/4dyok

3. http://tinyurl.com/664yu

4. http://tinyurl.com/apenc



He thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven centuries,
gave rise to Mithraism:

http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk



He's quite literally astronomically stupid:

http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg

("the same "sky" that's already been looked at."!)

http://tinyurl.com/6fbwqh



He claims he can run rings around anyone on scripture, but when he was
actually taken up directly on this claim:

http://tinyurl.com/3z47u

he ran away!



He has numerous documented lies:

http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx

http://tinyurl.com/ablwm



He regularly demands people open discussions on his god, and when they
do, he runs away. I personally had him run from the *same topic* well
over 100 times in direct response to a challenge *he* made!



He dismally failed the simplest intelligence test imaginable:

http://tinyurl.com/7zm43



He has fifty questions he can't answer or daren't answer honestly
here:

http://tinyurl.com/ad89u (October 22nd 2004)



and fifty more here:

http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y (July 16th 2005)



In short, he's a waste of a human being and not worth any response
other than this.



End of Douche. Case closed.



Budikka
duke
2011-12-28 11:59:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Budikka666
Here's an abridged list of threads in which Duke has been asked
serious questions about his position, from which he has run like
diarrhea.
But you don't offer response to my answers.


























Unlike Duck Egg Duke, who can make claims but who RUNS from
Post by Budikka666
all requests that he support those claims (see the very first item in
the list for details of his most recent cowardice, here's
documentation of Duke's refusal to witness for his god.
Dec 26th, 2011
Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
*given* *a* *second* *chance* to produce it, he fled the challenge!
http://tinyurl.com/7kawokn
Dec. 24th 2011
Duck & Run claimed he had 100% of the evidence for a god, yet when
challenged to produce it, he fled the challenge!
http://tinyurl.com/6m4ub5q
Sept. 5th 2011
asked for evidence for this Jesus of his. Duck & Run ducked & ran!
http://tinyurl.com/3brposl
On January 22, 2011, under the title: "Chicken Duke Has a Beautifully
Clean Pair of heels Does he Not?" I requested "Please provide
independent evidence - that is, from *outside* the Bible - that there
ever was a Jesus Christ, miracle working son of a god."
Chicken Duke couldn't do it.
http://tinyurl.com/4h6wdzm
http://tinyurl.com/4dk7aoz
please provide *positive* *scientific* evidence for a creator or for a
creation, and post it right here in response to this message.
This was in response to his assertion that "Existence mandates
creation".
He ran away.
http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j
December 22nd 2010, in which Chicken Duke was challenged to support
statements he has made repeatedly on Usenet. Once again he ran from
them like the stinking diarrhea he is and hid behind an irrelevant and
dishoenst non-sequitur.
He ran from a challenge to support his bullshit on December 21st,
http://tinyurl.com/29hkt7j
http://tinyurl.com/2d5xtf3
November 20th 2010, he ran form these five simple questions rather
than support his god, thereby proving that he's nothing but another
limp Peter at the passion!
1. That the figure you quoted is true.
2. That they all believe in the *same* deity.
3. That this single deity actually exists
4. That this single deity actually created the universe
5. That this single deity is not a figment of their imagination
Time to show us that clean pair of heels again, Chicken Duck & Run.
Yep - he ran!
Claimed there are "gargantuan holes" in the Theory of Evolution and
http://tinyurl.com/27kf2da
http://tinyurl.com/6b9et
Duck & Run Ran Away - that is to say he failed 100% to actually get to
grips with the subject matter in any of those threads, his 'response'
consisting solely of chanting "no it isn't" or words to that effect.
He could offer no rebuttal, let alone refutation, he could not support
a single thing he claimed and he could offer zero rationale for his
position.
Let's face it, on this basis, he's run away from the entire "Why the
Holy Bible Lies" series, the entire "Why There Was No Flood" series,
and all of the the "Issues The Anti-Choice Crowd Carefully Avoid"
series so far.
Petition to Save the Hubble Telescope
Duck & Run makes yet another blind claim "it's the same old sky" he
blathers, like there couldn't possibly be anything new to discover,
yet I proved him entirely wrong - again.
http://tinyurl.com/2qmyz
Scientists find new face on back of Turin shroud
http://tinyurl.com/2bx6jcf
Duck & Run, shrouded in cowardice, ran away.
The Inquisition
http://tinyurl.com/4pokf
Duck & Run didn't expect the inquisition....
Another Problem for Creation IDiots
http://tinyurl.com/3px9j
Duck & Run proved to be a creation IDiot.
Human aspect of Jesus
http://tinyurl.com/4w488
Duck and Run has provided us with a de facto admission that there was
no Jesus Christ, miracle-working son-of-a-god.
Jesus's three days sacrifice
http://tinyurl.com/3jhop
Duck & Run sacrificed the truth and got caught.
Which is the real God???
http://tinyurl.com/6bnoo
Duck & Run didn't know.
God isn't very smart about spreading his word, is he?
http://tinyurl.com/7xjux
Neither is Duck & Run.
Why did Mekkla run away from a discussion of Heb 8:7-13?
http://tinyurl.com/4v759
Duck & Run opened this thread to accuse someone else of running away.
As soon as he was challenged, Duck & Run ran away!
Why Didn't Jesus Die Sooner?
http://tinyurl.com/5gevm
Duck & Run's claims died sooner.
Why is Duke Such a Coward?
http://tinyurl.com/5p3qt
Duck & Run ran away, proving what a coward he is.
Duck & Run's five evidences of god
http://tinyurl.com/3otzr
Questions that Duke Can't Answer
(in which I accused Duck & Run of running away and from which
he...**RAN AWAY**! The questions remain unanswered. There are only
ten numbered questions in this thread, assembled from previous threads
from which
Duck & Run ran away. Duck & Run lied there were 75 questions
and...ran away!)
http://tinyurl.com/5ozyl
There are now well over one hundred unanswered questions that Duck &
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y
Duck & Run thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven
http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk
Duck & Run ran away.
Duke: Global Flood Challenge
A thread which I opened specifically at Duck & Run's request, and from
which he, predictably, ran away. He admitted there is no evidence for
a global flood, I presented abundant evidence that there never was
one,
Duck & Run offered zero rebuttal and ran away as he again did in the
recent flood series.
http://tinyurl.com/4l83y
http://tinyurl.com/5l2av
Duck & Run failed to refute the evidence and ran away, thereby proving
my case
An Answer to Pascal's Wager
http://tinyurl.com/4y63n
In which I accuse Duck & Run of running away. He ran away!
Thread: "Why Puke is Such a Pathological, Unregenerate, Cowardly,
Lying, Hypocritical Asshole"
http://tinyurl.com/4ant3
Duck & Run ran away because he's a pathological, unregenerate,
cowardly, lying hypocritical asshole.
Thread: "Duke's Chronic lying"
http://tinyurl.com/3ra8l
Duck & Run ran away.
Thread: "aqotm - bud(ikka) style"
http://tinyurl.com/4r4gz
Duck & Run ran away from his own clueless stupidity
Thread: "Duke: Global Flood Challenge"
http://tinyurl.com/3qd5m
Duck & Run was out of his depth - as he's recently proven again - and
so he...ran away!
Thread: "The Bland Assumption of Jesus' Existence"
http://tinyurl.com/5kj3m
Duck & Run ran away as I blandly assumed he would.
Thread: "Running Scriptural Circles Around Duke"
http://tinyurl.com/3ozwo
Duck & Run ran away after I ran scriptural circles around him
http://tinyurl.com/487vc
This was a cowardly thread Duck & Run opened titled "Budikka Runs
Away". He set this up because he was peeved that he didn't get an
instant response from me in another thread! He never told me he'd
opened this alternate thread, yet he accused me of running away in
it! LoL! When I finally happened across it and challenged him in it,
he ran away! How pathetic is that?!
And more than once/month for an entire 12 month period starting April
April 21st, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzywu7q
July 12th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrmfxp
August 16th,2009: http://tinyurl.com/kjjmn4
September 10th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/oasqn8
October 3rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybvtw53
November 9th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yjlmbrf
November 19th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yj64yqj
November 20th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybrkvyh
November 22nd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ycw6s8l
November 25th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakpje3
November 29th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ygafw5d
December 5th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yzt9f4m
December 7th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yllcb6q
December 8th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/ybzvv33
December 13th, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/yakex6v
December 23rd, 2009: http://tinyurl.com/y9k8kpv
January 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnesb2
January 24th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l
January 27th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycgm8u8
January 31st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo
February 3rd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybsqw3l
February 15th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjjj93v
February 16th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ycemfpo
February 22nd, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ye59brz
March 1st, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ykgtezr
March 6th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yjhe3fe
March 9th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/ybnahkb
March 11th, 2010: http://tinyurl.com/yl8hcea
The best comment from him was in alt.atheism on January 5th, 2004, at
5:46 pm when he said, "I've heard myself say a lot of vocal things,
but I've never heard myself think." (http://tinyurl.com/f48bq). This
explains everything, including why he's such a gashole. All he can do
is impotently snipe at people, since he has nothing of value or
intelligence to say and he demonstrably cannot support a single claim
he makes.
He has no proof, no evidence - not even an intelligent argument. He
does not think because he cannot. He's quite loco, and like a loco,
he's stuck on a pair of narrow rails. He has no clue he's on them,
let alone how to get off. And the track to which he's limited leads
to a dead end - which he hilariously thinks is "Heaven"!
The best "evidence" of a god he was ever capable of producing was a
lackluster five items he posted in thread "Scientists find new face on
http://tinyurl.com/c6hkg.
He appears to have appropriated "his" five evidences from Thomas
Aquinas who, c1245, published "Summa theologiae" which contained five
"Ways" to "prove" some god's existence, all of which have been
thoroughly discredited.
He admitted his "own" five ways were nothing but blind belief in alt
atheism in a thread called "The Inquisition" message posted on
http://tinyurl.com/bc5ud
but that was all he could do after the massive pounding he got.
I used those same five items in a spoof edition of my "Why There is no
God" series (http://tinyurl.com/bz54w). I changed a word here and
there and all of his five "evidences" miraculously became evidence for
the non-existence of a god! Naturally I didn't count them in the 666
since they were so pathetic.
His comments aren't born of smarts, logic, rational or evidence,
they're born of desperation. Neither are his comments aimed at the
material - they rarely are. He's incapable of having a rational
exchange on a topic. He spits out idiocy and insult and runs away.
His comments are not designed to enlighten, help, or exchange
anything, but to abuse people. He's the very antithesis of this
purported Christian love he's supposed to dispense.
He never documents or supports a single thing he says, whereas the
cowardice and lies of this pathetic hypocrite for Christ have been
fully documented on Usenet. His despicable behavior and his
slanderous unfounded charges (he thinks turning the other cheek means
mooning someone) are why he was mass-plonked by pretty near the entire
http://tinyurl.com/9gycg
It's a sign of how pathetic he is, how low he's sinking and how
desperate he's become since he was cut off, that he now has to beg for
atheists to talk to him by posting inane rants against us - this from
the guy who claims to be a Christian, who claims to do unto others as
he would be done by, and who lies about turning the other cheek!
1. http://tinyurl.com/ac2vg
2. http://tinyurl.com/4dyok
3. http://tinyurl.com/664yu
4. http://tinyurl.com/apenc
He thinks Christianity, which post-dates Mithraism by seven centuries,
http://tinyurl.com/yzp9bk
http://tinyurl.com/yhyopg
("the same "sky" that's already been looked at."!)
http://tinyurl.com/6fbwqh
He claims he can run rings around anyone on scripture, but when he was
http://tinyurl.com/3z47u
he ran away!
http://tinyurl.com/5zlzx
http://tinyurl.com/ablwm
He regularly demands people open discussions on his god, and when they
do, he runs away. I personally had him run from the *same topic* well
over 100 times in direct response to a challenge *he* made!
http://tinyurl.com/7zm43
He has fifty questions he can't answer or daren't answer honestly
http://tinyurl.com/ad89u (October 22nd 2004)
http://tinyurl.com/9ky7y (July 16th 2005)
In short, he's a waste of a human being and not worth any response
other than this.
End of Douche. Case closed.
Budikka
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-27 20:24:30 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:26:14 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from Earl.

11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\ | @ @ | 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
duke
2011-12-28 12:06:39 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:24:30 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:26:14 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from spoon
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-28 19:34:00 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:06:39 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from Earl.

11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\ | @ @ | 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
John Baker
2011-12-30 00:08:30 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:34:00 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:06:39 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from Earl.
He's capable of nothing else.
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
duke
2011-12-30 12:35:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by John Baker
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:34:00 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:06:39 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from Earl.
He's capable of nothing else.
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1 John loves spoon 1 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-30 23:09:13 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:35:02 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from Earl.

11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\ | @ @ | 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
duke
2011-12-31 11:57:36 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:09:13 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:35:02 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from spoon
11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 spoon 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-31 17:01:47 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 05:57:36 -0600,
Post by duke
Heeheehee.
MORE **immaturity** from Earl.

11111111_____
_,_ 111111111111\
___ / \ 111111111111\
\ | @ @ | 111111111111\
\-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
\11111111111111111111/
\1111 Earl Weber 111 /
\111111111111111111/
// \\
|| ||
OO OO
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:23:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by duke
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:34:00 -0600, "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:06:39 -0600,
    Heeheehee.
    MORE **immaturity** from Earl.
He's capable of nothing else.
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
                          11111111_____
                  _,_     111111111111\
___           /      \     111111111111\
   \-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
    \11111111111111111111/
     \1 John loves spoon 1 /
      \111111111111111111/
           //                     \\
          ||                      ||
         OO                   OO
The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17
It is the power of God
Prove that this god thing exists.
duke
2012-01-07 13:51:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by duke
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 13:34:00 -0600, "(¯`·.¸  Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 06:06:39 -0600,
    Heeheehee.
    MORE **immaturity** from Earl.
He's capable of nothing else.
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
                          11111111_____
                  _,_     111111111111\
___           /      \     111111111111\
   \-----oOO---Ooo-------------/
    \11111111111111111111/
     \1 John loves spoon 1 /
      \111111111111111111/
           //                     \\
          ||                      ||
         OO                   OO
Romans 1:16-17
It is the power of God
Prove that this god thing exists.
I don't have to. You have to worry like hell that he does.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
vince garcia
2011-12-27 20:58:32 UTC
Permalink
DUKE’S UNIVERSALIST HERESY EXPOSED

Listen to Catholic Answers say "Oh dear!" when I repeat Duke's very
words on how Jews, Moslems, and even ATHEISTS are saved if they live
Godly: And to him, “Godly” means “Keep the 10 commandments”
as he has repeatedly said about himself, jews, moslems, and others!
The Jews aren't going to hell any more than
the Christians. But all bad men will be.
Salvation is for anyone who lives Christ-like" regardless of
faith - Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist.
I have the words of the RCC behind my words that salvation is
for the Christ-like, regardless of religious faith.
I heard a homily by a priest where he said Jews are saved by
keeping the 10 commandments. Christians are saved by following Jesus.
Obedience should bring them eternal life as they are obeying God.
They're saved by following the 10 commandments faithfully.
Apostle Paul:
Gal 3:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works
of the law: for by the works of the law shall NO flesh be justified.
I am more convinced that ever that God will save every man, woman and child he
possibly can, regardless of their religious faith or their general sins, as long
as they faithfully follow him in THEIR OWN WAY. [My emphasis]
HOW MANY ATHEISTS KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS?!

I don’t know any atheists who keep the Sabbath commandment.
Yet Duke says you must keep the 10--including the Sabbath command
to be saved, and quotes Matthew 19 to that effect.
The Gospel says that "salvation is of those that are Christ-like.” And now you
know what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is. You and vince can call Catholic
Answers on that one.
Please, please, please do contact Catholic Answers if you don't believe me.
Well, I did. Here are the results where they agree with ME and say YOU
are wrong!

Hear them say what I've told Duke for years: To have a chance for a jew
or moslem to be saved, he must be INVINCIBLY IGNORANT of the gospel, not
"Salvation is for anyone hwo lives Christ-like regardless of faith -
Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist" as duke claims.

Did you get that, Duke?

Hear them state Jews must be “INVINCIBLY IGNORANT OF THE GOSPEL”
to have a chance at salvation.

Let’s see what the REAL Catholic Church says about Duke’s false
doctrine:


"The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes
and preaches that none of those existing outside the
Catholic Church, not only pagans, BUT ALSO JEWS and
heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal;
but that they will go into the eternal fire which was
prepared for the devil and his angels, UNLESS BEFORE
DEATH they are joined with Her; and that so important
is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those
remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments
of the Church unto salvation and they alone can receive
an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings,
their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a
Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great
as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the
Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within
the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church."
-- Pope Eugene IV From his Bull Cantate Domino, 1441


Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the
Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is
spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is
possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession
of any kind of religion, AS LONG AS MORALITY IS MAINTAINED.
--ENCYCLICAL OF POPE GREGORY XVI
Salvation is for anyone who lives Christ-like" regardless of
faith - Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist.
All people that respond positively to the teachings of Jesus, from pagan to
Jew to Muslim to Christian who live the right life can be saved.
Hear Catholic Answers specifically deny jews are saved one way, and
Christians
by another as Duke teaches.


Check the Monday nov 21 show, 1st caller.

http://www.catholic.com/radio/calendar

So AGAIN--we have Duke making up his own doctrine about how "all israel
will be saved" means the Jews are goling to heaven, and REAL
catholicapologists contradicting it and saying just what I've been
trying to get into his addled brain


DUKE’S NESTORIAN HERESY EXPOSED...

Nestorianism is a Christological doctrine advanced by Nestorius,
Patriarch of Constantinople from 428–431. The doctrine, which was
informed by Nestorius's studies under Theodore of Mopsuestia at the
School of Antioch, emphasizes the disunion between the human and divine
natures of Jesus.

Duke follows and teaches this heresy, claiming that because Jesus was
fully human, so his human nature did not know of His Divine nature
during His life except, perhaps, at the very end of His ministry.
Either Jesus didn’t know about His divine nature, or if He did, it was only toward
the end of His ministry.
Nobody knows when Jesus may have come to know of his
divine nature, but the RCC thinks it was likely just prior to the
cross, or as I've read.
Jesus emptied himself of his divine self.
Hear the host and apologist at Catholic Answers AGHAST at such heresy
spoken by an alleged Catholic.

This sort of heresy is unrepentant Mortal sin denying a key dogma of the
Church
on the Trinity and Hypostatic Union.

So feel free to listen to the Tues July 25, second show 40:30 into it as
the apologist and host go "Oo!" and "Wow!" in shock, and hit the "that
sounds like heresy" button as I repeat what Duke posts regularly here:
that Jesus either did not know of His divine nature at all, or else knew
just before the cross.
They don't have a heresy button
Listen and Judge for yourself

http://www.catholic.com/radio/calendar

On this, there "isn't really any debate; the church is clear on this
issue" ...except for duke who denies Catholic Dogma in favor of his own.

In fact, the catechism says he should not be be able to receive
Communion because of his beliefs:

1355 In the communion, preceded by the Lord's prayer and the breaking of
the bread, the faithful receive "the bread of heaven" and "the cup of
salvation," the body and blood of Christ who offered himself "for the
life of the world":181

Because this bread and wine have been made Eucharist ("eucharisted,"
according to an ancient expression), "we call this food Eucharist, and
no one may take part in it UNLESS HE BELIEVES WHAT WE TEACH IS TRUE, has
received baptism for the forgiveness of sins and new birth, and lives in
keeping with what Christ taught."

Duke doesn’t believe what the church teaches is true. he believes in his
own doctrines.


There is a technical term for those Catholics who wish to follow
the dictates of their conscience when it comes to matters of Faith and
Morals, especially in those areas where the doctrines and dogmas have
been made plain. They are called "Protestants".
-- pyotr filipivich

Couldn’t have said it better myself.
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:20:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Budikka666
Since you can provide no evidence for any of your inane fairy takes,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/983273c6...
the only thing that's worth noting in your above message is your
hatred and bigotry towards those who are different from you.  Is that
what Jesus would do?
Caca, you never offer retort - NEVER.  You just duck and run
LOL! Your middle names are duck and run. Most often, if one is to
"retort", one would need some factual assertion in which to give a
retort. You have no facts to assert.
duke
2012-01-07 13:53:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by Budikka666
Since you can provide no evidence for any of your inane fairy takes,
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/983273c6...
the only thing that's worth noting in your above message is your
hatred and bigotry towards those who are different from you.  Is that
what Jesus would do?
Caca, you never offer retort - NEVER.  You just duck and run
LOL! Your middle names are duck and run. Most often, if one is to
"retort", one would need some factual assertion in which to give a
retort. You have no facts to assert.
Bud da dud de caca categorically refuses to retort to my responses to her. She's
scared to death to try just as she is to everybody else that challenges her.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
vince garcia
2011-12-27 20:58:49 UTC
Permalink
DUKE’S UNIVERSALIST HERESY EXPOSED

Listen to Catholic Answers say "Oh dear!" when I repeat Duke's very
words on how Jews, Moslems, and even ATHEISTS are saved if they live
Godly: And to him, “Godly” means “Keep the 10 commandments”
as he has repeatedly said about himself, jews, moslems, and others!
The Jews aren't going to hell any more than
the Christians. But all bad men will be.
Salvation is for anyone who lives Christ-like" regardless of
faith - Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist.
I have the words of the RCC behind my words that salvation is
for the Christ-like, regardless of religious faith.
I heard a homily by a priest where he said Jews are saved by
keeping the 10 commandments. Christians are saved by following Jesus.
Obedience should bring them eternal life as they are obeying God.
They're saved by following the 10 commandments faithfully.
Apostle Paul:
Gal 3:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works
of the law: for by the works of the law shall NO flesh be justified.
I am more convinced that ever that God will save every man, woman and child he
possibly can, regardless of their religious faith or their general sins, as long
as they faithfully follow him in THEIR OWN WAY. [My emphasis]
HOW MANY ATHEISTS KEEP THE 10 COMMANDMENTS?!

I don’t know any atheists who keep the Sabbath commandment.
Yet Duke says you must keep the 10--including the Sabbath command
to be saved, and quotes Matthew 19 to that effect.
The Gospel says that "salvation is of those that are Christ-like.” And now you
know what the Gospel of Jesus Christ is. You and vince can call Catholic
Answers on that one.
Please, please, please do contact Catholic Answers if you don't believe me.
Well, I did. Here are the results where they agree with ME and say YOU
are wrong!

Hear them say what I've told Duke for years: To have a chance for a jew
or moslem to be saved, he must be INVINCIBLY IGNORANT of the gospel, not
"Salvation is for anyone hwo lives Christ-like regardless of faith -
Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist" as duke claims.

Did you get that, Duke?

Hear them state Jews must be “INVINCIBLY IGNORANT OF THE GOSPEL”
to have a chance at salvation.

Let’s see what the REAL Catholic Church says about Duke’s false
doctrine:


"The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes
and preaches that none of those existing outside the
Catholic Church, not only pagans, BUT ALSO JEWS and
heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal;
but that they will go into the eternal fire which was
prepared for the devil and his angels, UNLESS BEFORE
DEATH they are joined with Her; and that so important
is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those
remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments
of the Church unto salvation and they alone can receive
an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings,
their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a
Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great
as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the
Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within
the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church."
-- Pope Eugene IV From his Bull Cantate Domino, 1441


Now We consider another abundant source of the evils with which the
Church is afflicted at present: indifferentism. This perverse opinion is
spread on all sides by the fraud of the wicked who claim that it is
possible to obtain the eternal salvation of the soul by the profession
of any kind of religion, AS LONG AS MORALITY IS MAINTAINED.
--ENCYCLICAL OF POPE GREGORY XVI
Salvation is for anyone who lives Christ-like" regardless of
faith - Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, atheist.
All people that respond positively to the teachings of Jesus, from pagan to
Jew to Muslim to Christian who live the right life can be saved.
Hear Catholic Answers specifically deny jews are saved one way, and
Christians
by another as Duke teaches.


Check the Monday nov 21 show, 1st caller.

http://www.catholic.com/radio/calendar

So AGAIN--we have Duke making up his own doctrine about how "all israel
will be saved" means the Jews are goling to heaven, and REAL
catholicapologists contradicting it and saying just what I've been
trying to get into his addled brain


DUKE’S NESTORIAN HERESY EXPOSED...

Nestorianism is a Christological doctrine advanced by Nestorius,
Patriarch of Constantinople from 428–431. The doctrine, which was
informed by Nestorius's studies under Theodore of Mopsuestia at the
School of Antioch, emphasizes the disunion between the human and divine
natures of Jesus.

Duke follows and teaches this heresy, claiming that because Jesus was
fully human, so his human nature did not know of His Divine nature
during His life except, perhaps, at the very end of His ministry.
Either Jesus didn’t know about His divine nature, or if He did, it was only toward
the end of His ministry.
Nobody knows when Jesus may have come to know of his
divine nature, but the RCC thinks it was likely just prior to the
cross, or as I've read.
Jesus emptied himself of his divine self.
Hear the host and apologist at Catholic Answers AGHAST at such heresy
spoken by an alleged Catholic.

This sort of heresy is unrepentant Mortal sin denying a key dogma of the
Church
on the Trinity and Hypostatic Union.

So feel free to listen to the Tues July 25, second show 40:30 into it as
the apologist and host go "Oo!" and "Wow!" in shock, and hit the "that
sounds like heresy" button as I repeat what Duke posts regularly here:
that Jesus either did not know of His divine nature at all, or else knew
just before the cross.
They don't have a heresy button
Listen and Judge for yourself

http://www.catholic.com/radio/calendar

On this, there "isn't really any debate; the church is clear on this
issue" ...except for duke who denies Catholic Dogma in favor of his own.

In fact, the catechism says he should not be be able to receive
Communion because of his beliefs:

1355 In the communion, preceded by the Lord's prayer and the breaking of
the bread, the faithful receive "the bread of heaven" and "the cup of
salvation," the body and blood of Christ who offered himself "for the
life of the world":181

Because this bread and wine have been made Eucharist ("eucharisted,"
according to an ancient expression), "we call this food Eucharist, and
no one may take part in it UNLESS HE BELIEVES WHAT WE TEACH IS TRUE, has
received baptism for the forgiveness of sins and new birth, and lives in
keeping with what Christ taught."

Duke doesn’t believe what the church teaches is true. he believes in his
own doctrines.


There is a technical term for those Catholics who wish to follow
the dictates of their conscience when it comes to matters of Faith and
Morals, especially in those areas where the doctrines and dogmas have
been made plain. They are called "Protestants".
-- pyotr filipivich

Couldn’t have said it better myself.
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:18:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by duke
Post by Colanth
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 18:33:56 -0800 (PST), Samuel Harrigon
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--all homosexuals will go to hell.
Those who do not celebrate Christmas will go to hell.
It's your hell, so you go to it.
Unfortunately for you, it's yours too.
Nope, all yours.
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:10:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Samuel Harrigon
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Simple fact--
You're an idiot. The Yule season has been around since LONG before
the alleged birth of your imaginary sky-pixie.
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-25 03:00:37 UTC
Permalink
On 25 Dec 2011 02:24:00 -0000,
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
BZZZzzzttt!!!

(1) If only 7% of gays were Christians, that's more than a
MILLION gay Christians.

(2) One does NOT have to be Christian to celebrate Christmas.
NON-Christians can enjoy it the SAME way than most
Christians do: Shopping, Santa Claus, enjoying hearing
and singing secular Christmas carols, Christmas trees,
exchanging gifts, etc., etc. SO -- NO hypocrisy. At
bottom, Christmas if FAR more secular than religious. And
NO one knows *when* Jesus was born, as far as knowing
even the correct MONTH is concerned.

(3) Only an IDIOT would *give* a flying rat's ass whet OTHER
people than him/herself happen to believe. NONE of any-
one's business.

You continue to prove yourself to be a DOLT.


*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

••• Rest in Peace •••
••• George Richard Tiller, MD •••
••• A True American HERO! •••
••• August 8, 1941 – May 31, 2009 •••
••• Visit -- http://iamdrtiller.com •••

"He saved the lives of thousands of women who would've
died otherwise, thousands who would've been made sterile
or gravely injured by childbirth. He knew his life was at grave
risk. Dr. Tiller was a true Saint."

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

-- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from top 5 websites below.)

[[ Readers: If you respond to my post, and you wish for me to
SEE your response, you'll need to make sure that you include
alt.politics.homosexuality in the cross-postings, and that the
total number of groups in the cross-postings is five or fewer.
That's because the vilest and most irrational of the Anti-Human
& Civil Rights bigots are those seeking to deny EQUAL rights to
gays. So in defending those rights, as one of their straight
egalitarian allies, I monitor and post almost exclusively from
that group. ]]

Other highly-informative Resources:

http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481 -- Excellent article!
http://themindlesspraetorianblog.blogspot.com/ -- Excellent blog!

And ONE MORE: Read this, and then take future action accordingly:

Regarding: http://base8.lavenderliberal.com/index.html

The above normally is a very USEFUL Searchable Database of
the Proposition Hate (8) ENEMIES of Human Rights! KNOW the
enemies... and then HARASS and BOYCOTT the enemies, as much
as it is legally possible to do so! NOTE!! -- If you're reading this
in a post made by me on or after 11-24-11, you may find that the
link doesn't work. Hopefully, that situation will only be temporary.
Please save it in your Bookmarks/Favorites and keep trying it as
you get the chance. It is a HIGHLY useful resource when it can be
accessed!

If the link changes in the future, I'll include the NEW one in forth-
coming posts as soon as I learn about it.
Gunner Asch
2011-12-25 07:28:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
How so?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-25 09:14:38 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 23:28:36 -0800,
One could not be a successful [Rightwinger] without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of [Rightwingers], a goodly number of [Rightwingers]
are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
-- Gunner Asch
Indeed!!! And you misspelled "Rightwinger," so I corrected
that for you, above. (Properly, in brackets.) Your comment now
reads TRUTHFULLY.

RRR Cult lemmings all are bigots. And bigotry and intelligence
are mutually-exclusive. With the exception of the presence of
some other brain pathology, such as a tumor, NO *intelligent*
person is a bigot. Because short of committing overt, jailable
crimes, *nothing* is DUMBER than bigotry. MOST, but not all,
rightwingers/Republicans are bigots. Many Republicans manage
simply to be delusional enough to BE Republicans without being
bigots.

Them TOO, many Republicans are like me: egalitarians who
are working WITHIN the Republican Party AS registered Repub-
licans to undermine the loathsome hate-agendas of the RRR &
LDS cultists who INFEST it. Most of US help to sway primary
elections in favor of candidates who either would be the most
likely to LOSE to the Democrat in the General Election... or of
ones that would be the LEAST socially-bigoted in case the Re-
publican should WIN the General Election.

I am very happy to be in a position to help accomplish this
in the Iowa Caucuses on January 3rd!!

In small populations, votes really can COUNT. The mayor
of my city was up for reelection last month, and I supported
him -- and was VERY glad that I voted for him because he won
reelection -- AND the recount that followed -- by just ONE vote!

Participants in the Iowa Caucuses have a good chance of
making a real difference in the Presidential race! There'll only
be around 120,000 of us, statewide, who caucus.


*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

-- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from top 5 websites below.)

[[ Readers: If you respond to my post, and you wish for me to
SEE your response, you'll need to make sure that you include
alt.politics.homosexuality in the cross-postings, and that the
total number of groups in the cross-postings is five or fewer.
That's because the vilest and most irrational of the Anti-Human
& Civil Rights bigots are those seeking to deny EQUAL rights to
gays. So in defending those rights, as one of their straight
egalitarian allies, I monitor and post almost exclusively from
that group. ]]

Other highly-informative Resources:

http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481 -- Excellent article!
http://themindlesspraetorianblog.blogspot.com/ -- Excellent blog!

And ONE MORE: Read this, and then take future action accordingly:

Regarding: http://base8.lavenderliberal.com/index.html

The above normally is a very USEFUL Searchable Database of
the Proposition Hate (8) ENEMIES of Human Rights! KNOW the
enemies... and then HARASS and BOYCOTT the enemies, as much
as it is legally possible to do so! NOTE!! -- If you're reading this
in a post made by me on or after 11-24-11, you may find that the
link doesn't work. Hopefully, that situation will only be temporary.
Please save it in your Bookmarks/Favorites and keep trying it as
you get the chance. It is a HIGHLY useful resource when it can be
accessed!

If the link changes in the future, I'll include the NEW one in forth-
coming posts as soon as I learn about it.
Francis Tidwell
2011-12-26 20:47:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
I fixed the subject for you Andre.

Queers fear any mention of God and religion. Their psychological profile
is well documented in this respect.
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2011-12-26 21:21:00 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:47:20 +0000 (UTC), Francis Tidwell
Post by Francis Tidwell
Queers fear any mention of God and religion.
Actually, they are just the OPPOSITE. The actual QUEERS in *this*
country **lyingly** CLAIM to be Christians!! --

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

QUEERS *Do* INFEST Society!
Here's Who They Are!

= = = = = = = = = =
Post by Francis Tidwell
Those who are black were born black but no one, as hard as they
have tried, has ever even come close to proving that men or women
are born queer.
Considering the fact that the *only* REALLY queer people in society
are the socially-retarded BIGOTS who *infest* it, that's probably true.

Being bigoted is about a QUEER and demented as people GET without
being criminally-prosecuted. They are hateful and ignorant losers who
are totally without excuse. Sewer-rat turds floating in society's punch-
bowl.

Most of them emerge from the bigotry-factories that were their home
environments where their parents RAISED them to be that defective.
So were NOT actually *born* that way.

Meanwhile, there is NOTHING queer at all about ANY of the sexual
orientations -- ALL of which are merely TRIVEAL variations of NORMAL-
CY that people *are* BORN with.

And HERE is the PROOF of that ---

http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com/Orientation-at-Birth.html


*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

-- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from top 5 websites below.)

[[ Readers: If you respond to my post, and you wish for me to
SEE your response, you'll need to make sure that you include
alt.politics.homosexuality in the cross-postings, and that the
total number of groups in the cross-postings is five or fewer.
That's because the vilest and most irrational of the Anti-Human
& Civil Rights bigots are those seeking to deny EQUAL rights to
gays. So in defending those rights, as one of their straight
egalitarian allies, I monitor and post almost exclusively from
that group. ]]

Other highly-informative Resources:

http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481 -- Excellent article!
http://themindlesspraetorianblog.blogspot.com/ -- Excellent blog!

And ONE MORE: Read this, and then take future action accordingly:

Regarding: http://base8.lavenderliberal.com/index.html

The above normally is a very USEFUL Searchable Database of
the Proposition Hate (8) ENEMIES of Human Rights! KNOW the
enemies... and then HARASS and BOYCOTT the enemies, as much
as it is legally possible to do so! NOTE!! -- If you're reading this
in a post made by me on or after 11-24-11, you may find that the
link doesn't work. Hopefully, that situation will only be temporary.
Please save it in your Bookmarks/Favorites and keep trying it as
you get the chance. It is a HIGHLY useful resource when it can be
accessed!

If the link changes in the future, I'll include the NEW one in forth-
coming posts as soon as I learn about it.
Colanth
2011-12-28 19:45:11 UTC
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:47:20 +0000 (UTC), Francis Tidwell
Post by Francis Tidwell
Queers fear any mention of God
Making them God-fearing people. Terrible.
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush
P***@Pooks.Hill.Fey
2011-12-27 23:44:34 UTC
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Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
For thousands of years before your Jesus, the mid winter festival was celebrated.

Christians came along, and gradually managed to get the 25th of December, re-named
"Christ's Mass", and eventually Christmas.

But it was never really a christian holiday, or celebration, there was more of
Saturnalia, than christianity, to the point where christmas was banned by the church, at
one time.

Fact is, it is only in the last century and a half, that the festival we know as
christmas, has evolved, and what it has evolved into, is another Saturnalia, a pagan
feast, with only minimal christian influence.

***

The spelling, like any opinion stated here,

is purely my own

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BAAWA Knight.
WangoTango
2012-01-02 18:28:18 UTC
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In article <***@reece.net.au>, ***@aol.com
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.

I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god. They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them. How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
Gunner Asch
2012-01-03 03:41:35 UTC
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Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god. They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them. How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
Shrug..I agree.

And Im way to the right of Rush..very conservative..and Buddhist.

Frankly..most conservatives really dont care one way or another about
gays..as long as gays dont get into their faces..ala ActUP or Queer
Nation.

Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend..few of us give a
shit if you do or not.

Only some of the radical religion freaks give a shit..what is that
bastard group that fucks with military funerals? Something Babtist..well
known. Its a very small church..less than 500 members out of the 80% of
Americans who have religious beliefs..some 335 million..million
Americans

Of course..the Islamics..which the Leftwingers love..along with the Gay
Lefties....they murder their gays as part of their Sharia Law.

Which is something I never could figure out..why do Leftwingers defend
and love those that want them dead? Its a bit...odd
But then..Leftwingers are mentally ill as a group..so its simply
something us normals can only shrug our shoulders about.

Here on Usenet..we have Leftwing trolls..we have some Christian trolls
who are usually homophobic. The only thing the rest of us can say...is
that there have been many studies about the insanely homophobic..and its
been found that most of those are gays who are afraid to come out fo the
closet..or to admit it to themselves.
Which when I mention that..tends to get em pissed at me...shrug..and I
could give a shit.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
juanjo
2012-01-03 04:51:35 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Of course..the Islamics..which the Leftwingers love..along with the Gay
Lefties....they murder their gays as part of their Sharia Law.
I keep hearing this nonsense repeated by right wingers. I have yet to
see a single fact to support the claim. Of course of one is truly a
civil libertarian then one believes that people have the right to
observe their religion within the confines of the Constitution of
course. That means the Westboro Baptist Church lug nuts get to
protest at funeral and right wing nut cases get to justify their
hatred of homosexuality on religious grounds. This also means that
Muslims get to do the same. I can think they are truly nuts for doing
and saying what they advocate but they still have the right to do so.
Now when they start killing people who do not conform to their
religious prejudices then it is a different issue. I can't do much
about Iranian mullahs hanging 16 year old boys for being gay but I can
speak out about it and have as have other gays. Likewise I would and
have spoken out in opposition of right wing religious nut cases who
advocate murdering doctors because they perform abortions.

I am reminded of a quote attributed to Charles James Napier who was
confronted by Hindu priests complaining to him about the prohibition
of Sati by British authorities. This was the religious custom of
burning a widow alive on the funeral pyre of her husband. According to
accounts published at the time, he replied:

"Be it so. This burning of widows is your custom; prepare the
funeral pile. But my nation has also a custom. When men burn women
alive we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters
shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the
widow is consumed. Let us all act according to national customs."
duke
2012-01-03 13:03:51 UTC
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Post by juanjo
Post by Gunner Asch
Of course..the Islamics..which the Leftwingers love..along with the Gay
Lefties....they murder their gays as part of their Sharia Law.
I keep hearing this nonsense repeated by right wingers. I have yet to
see a single fact to support the claim.
You're the ones demanding special rights. Accept equality and you won't have
much of a problem.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:25:48 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by juanjo
Post by Gunner Asch
Of course..the Islamics..which the Leftwingers love..along with the Gay
Lefties....they murder their gays as part of their Sharia Law.
I keep hearing this nonsense repeated by right wingers. I have yet to
see a single fact to support the claim.
You're the ones demanding special rights.
Nonsense.
DanielSan
2012-01-06 13:26:47 UTC
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Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by duke
Post by juanjo
Post by Gunner Asch
Of course..the Islamics..which the Leftwingers love..along with the Gay
Lefties....they murder their gays as part of their Sharia Law.
I keep hearing this nonsense repeated by right wingers. I have yet to
see a single fact to support the claim.
You're the ones demanding special rights.
Nonsense.
dukey is still having problems with a string attached to a ball. You'll
have to forgive him.
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2012-01-03 12:40:26 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
Only some of the radical religion freaks give a shit... what is that
bastard group that fucks with military funerals? Something Babtist..well
known. Its a very small church..less than 500 members out of the 80%
of Americans who have religious beliefs... some 330 million Americans.
Here on Usenet..we have ...some [PSEUDO-]Christian trollswho are
usually homophobic.
The RRR & LDS Cultists.
The only thing the rest of us can say... is that there have been many
studies about the insanely homophobic... and its been found that most
of those are gays who are afraid to come out of the closet..or to admit it
to themselves. Which when I mention that... tends to get em pissed at
me... Shrug.. and I could give a shit.
ZERO-self-esteem DWEEBS -- such as the vast majority of the homo-
phobic bigots -- react like scalded cats when the TRUTH is told about them.

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

-- Craig Chilton (E-Mail me if you wish, from top 5 websites below.)
Tens of thousands of posts to Usenet since 1994 -- *ALL* made
under my REAL, FULL, and easily-VERIFIABLE name. Because
as a fair-minded egalitarian, I have NOTHING to be ashamed-of!

[[ Readers: If you respond to my post, and you wish for me to
SEE your response, you'll need to make sure that you include
alt.politics.homosexuality in the cross-postings, and that the
total number of groups in the cross-postings is five or fewer.
That's because the vilest and most irrational of the Anti-Human
& Civil Rights bigots are those seeking to deny EQUAL rights to
gays. So in defending those rights, as one of their straight
egalitarian allies, I monitor and post almost exclusively from
that group. ]]

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http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!
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http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.bradleymanning.org -- Accord FAIRNESS to a HERO!
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481 -- Excellent article!
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for updates on this.
duke
2012-01-04 17:58:08 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.


duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-04 17:59:32 UTC
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Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-04 23:38:15 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.

So the honeymoon is gonna be pretty boring......


Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-04 23:39:36 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 02:21:26 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really? Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.

Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"

Lev. 18:22

‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)

Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female." It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.

117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13

"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)

The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."

Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah


Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)

You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.

Shrug

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 02:29:37 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.

Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 04:32:21 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating! And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible? Got a website?

How many books have you published? Is there any money in it?

Or are you simply a lying cocksucker?

Ill bet the last.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 04:34:07 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating! And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible? Got a website?
My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 08:06:20 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating! And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible? Got a website?
My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.
So you never completed that pesky braille course eh?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 08:09:24 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating! And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible? Got a website?
My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.
So you never completed that pesky braille course eh?
Keep fleeing the subject.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 09:13:06 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating! And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible? Got a website?
My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.
So you never completed that pesky braille course eh?
Keep fleeing the subject.
Fleeing? Watching you try to define things to your own twisted way of
thinking while scary..is actually pretty funny too.

Im curious why you think that your Opinion about Things is superior to
that of the Supreme Court and every definition found in every reference
book of note.

Is that just another mental illness symptom you Leftwingers are victims
of? Megalomania? Based on you and a gazillion other Far Leftwing
Extremist Fringe Kooklers..Id say yah...thats a pretty common symptom
you guys exhibit.

Good thing you will be killed this year.

Darwin...hell of a smart fellah.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 09:17:47 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating! And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible? Got a website?
My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.
So you never completed that pesky braille course eh?
Keep fleeing the subject.
Fleeing? Watching you try to define things to your own twisted way of
thinking while scary..is actually pretty funny too.
Im curious why you think that your Opinion about Things is superior to
that of the Supreme Court and every definition found in every reference
book of note.
The Supreme Court does not control what I believe and do not believe.
Atheism is the lack of belief (disbelief) in deities.

Break the word down if you need to.

Atheism
A-the-ism

Theos = God
Ism = Suffix, in this case, meaning "belief".
Theos (God) + Ism (Belief) = Theism (God Belief)

A = lack of, as in asymmetry.

A (lack of) + Theism (God Belief)

So, that thing that theists believe? We don't do that.

Capisce?
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:34:57 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸   Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
         I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
         My condolences to you for such ignorance.
         ...and Buddhist.
        NO problem.  ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
         Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
        Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then  you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation.  Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
       ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
       "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden.  The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something.  That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality.  What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"?  The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man?  You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
   It is an
abomination.  The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
       "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
       "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'"  19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here.  Nor forbidding it.  See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality.  Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath.  No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself.  In the wording and in the
history.  The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality.  It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating!  And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible?  Got a website?
My 'widely-known source' is the Bible itself.
So  you never completed that pesky braille course eh?
Keep fleeing the subject.
Fleeing? Watching  you try to define things to your own twisted way of
thinking
LOL! Religionists have been doing that for centuries now.
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:33:33 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸   Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
       I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
       My condolences to you for such ignorance.
       ...and Buddhist.
      NO problem.  ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
       Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
      Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then  you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation.  Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
     ‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
     "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden.  The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something.  That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality.  What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"?  The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man?  You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
 It is an
abomination.  The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
     "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
     "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'"  19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here.  Nor forbidding it.  See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality.  Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath.  No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself.  In the wording and in the
history.  The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality.  It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Fascinating!  And your a widely known source of translation for the
Bible?  Got a website?
How many books have you published? Is there any money in it?
Or are you simply a lying cocksucker?
Ah, the cry of the wounded religionist. When confronted with the
actual facts, resort to insult.
Barry OGrady
2012-01-05 08:40:42 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.

==========
DanielSan
2012-01-05 08:42:16 UTC
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Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
Barry OGrady
2012-01-05 09:01:12 UTC
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?

==========
DanielSan
2012-01-05 09:02:23 UTC
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Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Post by Barry OGrady
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?
I don't like people that lie about things.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 09:39:53 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Of course not. It only forbids laying down together. If you kneel in
front of your top to suck his dick, or he bends you over the kitchen
table to fuck you in the ass..its cool.
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?
I don't like people that lie about things.
You must really hate yourself tremendously.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 09:43:40 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Of course not. It only forbids laying down together. If you kneel in
front of your top to suck his dick, or he bends you over the kitchen
table to fuck you in the ass..its cool.
Homosexuality =/= coitus
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?
I don't like people that lie about things.
You must really hate yourself tremendously.
I have not lied here.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 11:54:06 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Of course not. It only forbids laying down together. If you kneel in
front of your top to suck his dick, or he bends you over the kitchen
table to fuck you in the ass..its cool.
Homosexuality =/= coitus
Blink blink...huh?
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?
I don't like people that lie about things.
You must really hate yourself tremendously.
I have not lied here.
And yet another lie.

Are you trying for some sort of record?

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 11:55:51 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Of course not. It only forbids laying down together. If you kneel in
front of your top to suck his dick, or he bends you over the kitchen
table to fuck you in the ass..its cool.
Homosexuality =/= coitus
Blink blink...huh?
Time to go back to school, Gunny. You are WAY out of your league here.
Barry OGrady
2012-01-05 10:05:21 UTC
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:02:23 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is]
abomination.
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?
I don't like people that lie about things.
Yet you are lying about the bible.
Face it, the bible authors were opposed to homosexuals.
Rather than try to change the bible why not reject it completely?

==========
DanielSan
2012-01-05 10:07:45 UTC
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Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:02:23 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:42:16 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
<brevity snip>
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
I'm not a Christian. But the Bible doesn't say what so many people want
it to say.
It certainly doesn't say what you want it to say.
Actually, it does. The Bible does not forbid homosexuality.
Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is]
abomination.
That is not forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
If you are not Christian why defend the bible?
I don't like people that lie about things.
Yet you are lying about the bible.
No, I'm not.
Post by Barry OGrady
Face it, the bible authors were opposed to homosexuals.
Homosexuality, as we know it today, was unknown in those days. The
Levitical admonition of a man lying with a man is in relation to
idolatrous practices of the pagans and loving another deity over God.

It had nothing to do with what we now think of when we think of
homosexuality.
Post by Barry OGrady
Rather than try to change the bible why not reject it completely?
I am not changing the Bible; the bigots are.
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 11:55:30 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
Face it, the bible authors were opposed to homosexuals.
Homosexuality, as we know it today, was unknown in those days
Blink blink.....what..its a 20th century invention?

Sigh..now you have become far far too stupid to even respond to any
further.

<plink>

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
DanielSan
2012-01-05 11:57:41 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
Face it, the bible authors were opposed to homosexuals.
Homosexuality, as we know it today, was unknown in those days
Blink blink.....what..its a 20th century invention?
Sigh..now you have become far far too stupid to even respond to any
further.
<plink>
Probably a good thing Gunny had to killfile me. He has shown that he
could not even speak on this subject without being grotesquely wrong.
So sad. But, not surprising.

Oh well. Next?
Gunner Asch
2012-01-05 09:38:21 UTC
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On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:40:42 +1100, Barry OGrady
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 18:29:37 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Lev. 18:22
‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination." (NASB)
"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an
abomination." (ESV, NKJV)
Neither are forbidden. The Bible uses a certain language to forbid
something. That doesn't exist in this verse.
Post by Gunner Asch
Clearly, the Old Testament condemns homosexuality. What else does it
mean when it says "you shall not lie with a male as one lies with a
female"? The term "lie with" here refers to sexual intercourse in the
phrase "lie with a male as one lies with a female."
But is that a homosexual lying with a man or a heterosexual lying with a
man? You need to read the context.
Post by Gunner Asch
It is an
abomination. The word here is ????????? tow?ebah, to?ebah.
117 occurrences; AV translates as "abomination" 113 times, "abominable
thing" twice, and "abominable" twice. 1 a disgusting thing, abomination,
abominable. 1a in ritual sense (of unclean food, idols, mixed
marriages). 1b in ethical sense (of wickedness etc).1
Lev. 20:13
"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a
woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely
be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them." (NASB)
"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have
committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood
is upon them." (ESV)
The word "detestable" is the same Hebrew word found in Lev. 18:22,
"abomination."
Still no forbidding homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
Genesis 18:20; 19:1-12, 24 and Sodom and Gomorrah
Gen. 18:20 "And the Lord said, 'The outcry of Sodom and Gomorrah is
indeed great, and their sin is exceedingly grave...'" 19:1, "Now the
two angels came to Sodom in the evening as Lot was sitting in the gate
of Sodom. When Lot saw them, he rose to meet them and bowed down with
his face to the ground. 2 And he said, "Now behold, my lords, please
turn aside into your servant’s house, and spend the night, and wash your
feet; then you may rise early and go on your way." They said however,
"No, but we shall spend the night in the square." 3 Yet he urged them
strongly, so they turned aside to him and entered his house; and he
prepared a feast for them, and baked unleavened bread, and they ate. 4
Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded
the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and
they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you
tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." 6
But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, 7
and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. 8 "Now behold, I
have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me
bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing
to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof."
9 But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came
in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat
you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to
break the door. 10 But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot
into the house with them, and shut the door. 11 And they struck the men
who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and
great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. 12
Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and
your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring
them out of the place; 13 for we are about to destroy this place,
because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord
has sent us to destroy it...24 Then the Lord rained on Sodom and
Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." (NASB)
No condemnation of homosexuality here. Nor forbidding it. See a bunch
of rapists, but nothing about homosexuality. Unless you believe that a
man raping another man is what homosexuals do.
Ezekiel 16:49 explains what Sodom did to earn God's wrath. No mention
of homosexuality.
Post by Gunner Asch
You really...really need to get some education. Being gay, stupid and an
atheist really isnt a very healthy combination.
You might need a refresher course yourself. In the wording and in the
history. The wording used in the original does not reference
homosexuality. It references idolatrous activities of those in other
religions.
Your desperation is showing.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be a Christian.
Your desperation is showing when you try to redefine the Bible in such a
shoddy fashion.

Btw..Ive mentioned before..Im Buddhist..not Christian.

What..you are actually that blind that vast stretches of text are
invisible to you?

Mental illness...obviously you are a sad victim of mental illness

Shrug

Gunner
Post by Barry OGrady
==========
One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch
duke
2012-01-05 12:59:06 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Haahaahaa. Maybe it references eating a banana.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-05 13:00:59 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Haahaahaa. Maybe it references eating a banana.
Poor dukey doesn't even know his Bible. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were
about idolatry, not homosexual relations.
duke
2012-01-06 13:05:17 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Haahaahaa. Maybe it references eating a banana.
Poor dukey doesn't even know his Bible. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were
about idolatry, not homosexual relations.
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.

Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of
them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.

You may see idolatry, I seen queers in action.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-06 13:08:28 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?
Really.
Post by Gunner Asch
Then you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
More than you.
Post by Gunner Asch
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and a "man who lies with a man"
Incorrect translation. Not referencing homosexuality.
Haahaahaa. Maybe it references eating a banana.
Poor dukey doesn't even know his Bible. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were
about idolatry, not homosexual relations.
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.
Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of
them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.
You may see idolatry, I seen queers in action.
You have been deceived by Satan.
Jeff M
2012-01-06 18:03:52 UTC
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On 1/6/2012 7:05 AM, duke wrote:
[snip]
Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Poor dukey doesn't even know his Bible. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were
about idolatry, not homosexual relations.
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.
Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of
them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.
You may see idolatry, I seen queers in action.
Then I suggest that you two stop video-recording yourselves in action. ;-)

Also, Leviticus, in addition to the debatable passage on male homosexual
sodomy, clearly prohibits or mandates a variety of other things, many of
which would come as terribly inconvenient surprises to many modern
folks, such as prohibiting charging interest on debt, commanding
adherence to strict kosher dietary laws, and mandating animal sacrifices
on occasions far too numerous to list. I'm sure an observant and devout
fellow like you strictly and equally adheres to ALL the laws and
practices laid down in Leviticus, including banning your wife and
daughters from the house for a week when they have their periods and
refusing to touch them or touch anything they touched, lest you have to
go through the hassle of animal sacrifice and ritual cleaning.

I wonder, do you understand the difference between the Old and New
Testaments, and the meaning of that difference for Christians? Do you
know that "Leviticus" itself means "pertaining to the Levites"? How
many other Old Testament rules do you follow, whether in Leviticus or
other books? How, exactly, do pick which ones to obey and which ones to
ignore? Is there a secret codex somewhere that indicates where God
"really meant it" and where He was "just kidding"? Or do you just pick
and choose according to your own prejudices?
Olrik
2012-01-07 05:31:05 UTC
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Post by Jeff M
[snip]
Post by duke
Poor dukey doesn't even know his Bible. Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 were
about idolatry, not homosexual relations.
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.
Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version)
13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of
them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will
be on their own heads.
You may see idolatry, I seen queers in action.
Then I suggest that you two stop video-recording yourselves in action. ;-)
Also, Leviticus, in addition to the debatable passage on male homosexual
sodomy, clearly prohibits or mandates a variety of other things, many of
which would come as terribly inconvenient surprises to many modern
folks, such as prohibiting charging interest on debt, commanding
adherence to strict kosher dietary laws, and mandating animal sacrifices
on occasions far too numerous to list. I'm sure an observant and devout
fellow like you strictly and equally adheres to ALL the laws and
practices laid down in Leviticus, including banning your wife and
daughters from the house for a week when they have their periods and
refusing to touch them or touch anything they touched, lest you have to
go through the hassle of animal sacrifice and ritual cleaning.
I wonder, do you understand the difference between the Old and New
Testaments, and the meaning of that difference for Christians? Do you
know that "Leviticus" itself means "pertaining to the Levites"? How many
other Old Testament rules do you follow, whether in Leviticus or other
books? How, exactly, do pick which ones to obey and which ones to
ignore? Is there a secret codex somewhere that indicates where God
"really meant it" and where He was "just kidding"? Or do you just pick
and choose according to your own prejudices?
Why is the so-called "old testament" still attached to the so-called
"new testament"?
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:30:04 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸   Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
      I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
      My condolences to you for such ignorance.
      ...and Buddhist.
     NO problem.  ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
      Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
     Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Really?  Then  you dont know much about the Bible do you. Even I as a
Buddhist have studied it a bit.
Apparently, your studies stopped at historical context and taking the
entire text into account.
Barry OGrady
2012-01-05 08:43:07 UTC
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does. The inventors of God detested homosexuals.
If you don't like what the bible says don't be Christian.

==========
DanielSan
2012-01-05 08:44:01 UTC
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Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Please show where it uses any term that means "forbid".
Barry OGrady
2012-01-05 09:03:22 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:44:01 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Please show where it uses any term that means "forbid".
Put to death and their blood shall be upon them is pretty strong.
I realise Christianity has evolved and most Christians are embarrassed
by the old testament.

==========
DanielSan
2012-01-05 09:04:35 UTC
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Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:44:01 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Please show where it uses any term that means "forbid".
Put to death and their blood shall be upon them is pretty strong.
Sorry, I should've been more clear. Please show where it uses any term
that means "forbid" where it comes to homosexuality. A man laying with
a man is not necessarily homosexuality.
Barry OGrady
2012-01-05 22:16:06 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:04:35 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:44:01 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Please show where it uses any term that means "forbid".
Put to death and their blood shall be upon them is pretty strong.
Sorry, I should've been more clear.
Indeed you should.
Post by DanielSan
Please show where it uses any term
that means "forbid" where it comes to homosexuality.
Putting a person to death has the effect of preventing them doing
it again.
Post by DanielSan
A man laying with a man is not necessarily homosexuality.
As with a woman is.

==========
DanielSan
2012-01-05 22:16:48 UTC
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Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 01:04:35 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 00:44:01 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does.
Please show where it uses any term that means "forbid".
Put to death and their blood shall be upon them is pretty strong.
Sorry, I should've been more clear.
Indeed you should.
Post by DanielSan
Please show where it uses any term
that means "forbid" where it comes to homosexuality.
Putting a person to death has the effect of preventing them doing
it again.
That verse is not about homosexuality. Try again.
Post by Barry OGrady
Post by DanielSan
A man laying with a man is not necessarily homosexuality.
As with a woman is.
No, it isn't.
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:33:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Barry OGrady
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:39:36 -0800, DanielSan
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸   Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
      I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
      My condolences to you for such ignorance.
      ...and Buddhist.
     NO problem.  ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
      Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
     Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does.
No, it doesn't.
duke
2012-01-05 12:58:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Oh, yes it does.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-05 12:59:53 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Oh, yes it does.
Prove it. Leviticus 18 is not about a homosexual man laying with
another man for the purpose of consensual intercourse.
duke
2012-01-06 13:07:17 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Oh, yes it does.
Prove it. Leviticus 18 is not about a homosexual man laying with
another man for the purpose of consensual intercourse.
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.

You're a dumb dork. Haahaahaa.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-06 13:09:08 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
No, it doesn't.
Oh, yes it does.
Prove it. Leviticus 18 is not about a homosexual man laying with
another man for the purpose of consensual intercourse.
Leviticus 18:22 (New International Version)
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is
detestable.
That's a heterosexual engaging in idolatrous sex acts. Dummy.
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:29:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by DanielSan
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸   Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
     I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
     My condolences to you for such ignorance.
     ...and Buddhist.
    NO problem.  ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
     Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
    Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
The Bible does forbid men laying with men and women with women however.
That passage is from Leviticus, and refers to temple ritual
prostitution. Additionally, the entire book of Leviticus is very
specific about being directed soley at the "Children of Israell", and
not at Gentiles.
duke
2012-01-05 12:57:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
Maybe not in your bible, but it's clear in mine.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-05 12:58:52 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
Maybe not in your bible, but it's clear in mine.
Okay, I'll humor ya. Where in your Bible does it say that God is
against gay marriage?
duke
2012-01-06 13:08:58 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
Maybe not in your bible, but it's clear in mine.
Okay, I'll humor ya. Where in your Bible does it say that God is
against gay marriage?
Where he said that marriage is a union between one man and one woman.

Matthew 19:5 (New International Version)
5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[a]?
Footnotes:a.Matthew 19:5 Gen. 2:24

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
DanielSan
2012-01-06 13:13:30 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
Maybe not in your bible, but it's clear in mine.
Okay, I'll humor ya. Where in your Bible does it say that God is
against gay marriage?
Where he said that marriage is a union between one man and one woman.
Matthew 19:5 (New International Version)
5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[a]?
Footnotes:a.Matthew 19:5 Gen. 2:24
He was describing a type of marriage but this doesn't say that marriage
is only a union between one man and one woman. In fact, the Bible has
examples of multiple person marriage. How many wives did Solomon have?
duke
2012-01-07 13:56:50 UTC
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Post by DanielSan
Post by duke
Where he said that marriage is a union between one man and one woman.
Matthew 19:5 (New International Version)
5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be
united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[a]?
Footnotes:a.Matthew 19:5 Gen. 2:24
He was describing a type of marriage but this doesn't say that marriage
is only a union between one man and one woman. In fact, the Bible has
examples of multiple person marriage. How many wives did Solomon have?
The bible is not a book of only good, moral people. It's a book that shows us
what we are NOT to do.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****

c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:37:24 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by DanielSan
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 06:40:26 -0600, "(¯`·.¸   Craig Chilton  ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 19:41:35 -0800,
     I'm way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
     My condolences to you for such ignorance.
     ...and Buddhist.
    NO problem.  ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
     Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend... few of
us give a shit if you do or not.
    Good for you!
God doesn't like it.
There is nothing in the Bible which would lead you to believe that God
is against gay marriage.
Maybe not in your bible, but it's clear in mine.
It's only clear in your rabid little imagination, not your big black
book of myth and fable.
(¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
2012-01-04 22:45:22 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 11:58:08 -0600,
Post by duke
(¯`·.¸ Craig Chilton ¸.·´¯)
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
I'm 'way to the right of Rush... very conservative...
My condolences to you for such ignorance.
...and Buddhist.
NO problem. ALL religions are EQUALLY valuable.
For what?
Good question. And the answer is that all religion, or lack
thereof, is subjective. It's value is solely in whatever each
individual person, *personally* PERCEIVES it to be -- case-by-
case.
Post by duke
Post by (¯`·.ž Craig Chilton ž.·Ž¯) <http://www.LayoffRemedy.com>
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend...
few of us give a shit if you do or not.
Good for you!
<lying stupidity-flushed>

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http://www.TravelForPay.org -- Unemployment Solution!
http://www.ChristianEgalitarian.com -- Fight the hateful RRR Cult!
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Tactics: Defending Human Rights
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Exposing RRR Cult Bigotry
http://www.shadowandillusion.com -- Learn "The LOPAQUA Secret!"
http://www.bradleymanning.org -- Accord FAIRNESS to a HERO!
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481 -- Excellent article!
http://themindlesspraetorianblog.blogspot.com/ -- Excellent blog!

And ONE MORE: Read this, and then take future action accordingly:

Regarding: http://base8.lavenderliberal.com/index.html

It currently is down, but when active, it provides a very USEFUL
Searchable Database of the Proposition Hate (8) ENEMIES of Human
Rights! KNOW the enemies... and then HARASS and BOYCOTT the
enemies, as much as it is legally possible to do so! Watch my SIGs
for updates on this.
duke
2012-01-03 13:02:27 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god. They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them. How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
Shrug..I agree.
And Im way to the right of Rush..very conservative..and Buddhist.
Frankly..most conservatives really dont care one way or another about
gays..as long as gays dont get into their faces..ala ActUP or Queer
Nation.
Amen to that.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
Colanth
2012-01-03 18:41:37 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god. They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them. How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
Shrug..I agree.
And Im way to the right of Rush
And since Rush is way off the right edge of 'human' ...
Post by Gunner Asch
Gay and you want to marry your boyfriend/girlfriend..few of us give a
shit if you do or not.
Bullshit, Gumdrop.
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush
duke
2012-01-03 13:01:21 UTC
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Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god. They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them. How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
They announce that feel that way by violating God's commands against the
homosexual act. Now if they don't practice, they are not damned.

The dukester, American-American
*****
Romans 1:16-17

It is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes:
for Jew first, then Greek. For in it is revealed the righteousness
of God from faith to faith; as it is written, "The one who is
righteous by faith will live."
*****
c***@gmail.com
2012-01-06 13:25:19 UTC
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Post by duke
Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god.  They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them.  How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
They announce that feel that way by violating God's commands
What God? Can you prove he exists, then prove that he issued commands?
duke
2012-01-07 13:55:30 UTC
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Post by c***@gmail.com
Post by duke
Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god.  They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them.  How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
They announce that feel that way by violating God's commands
What God? Can you prove he exists, then prove that he issued commands?
Existence mandates creation, and the Supreme Creator's name is God.

duke, American - American

*****
1 John 3:4-6
4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact,
sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he
appeared so that he might take away our sins.
And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in
him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to
sin has either seen him or known him.
*****
Colanth
2012-01-03 18:42:08 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:28:18 -0500, WangoTango
Post by WangoTango
says...
Post by Andre Tice
The ultimate hypocrisy, gays celebrating Christmas.
Well, that's about the dumbest thing I've read today, but the day isn't
over.
I'm sure there are plenty of homosexuals that believe in the Christian
god. They just don't believe that it/he/she hates them. How could a
loving god hate one of its' children?
And due to the fact that they're what he created them to be ...
--
"I heard somebody say, 'Where's Nelson Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead.
Because Saddam killed all the Mandelas." - George W. Bush
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