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bobandcarole
2006-11-17 13:46:23 UTC
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NATIONAL NEWS



Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'


By ZACK HUDSON
Friday, November 17, 2006



"The homosexual community isn't going to shop at Wal-Mart. That's
not where they shop," said Rev. Phillip Benham, whose organization
tasks itself with combating the agendas of Muslims, abortion rights
groups, and gay men and lesbians.

But Wal-Mart officials are betting otherwise with a new wave of stores
opening in major metropolitan markets throughout the United States -
including the first Wal-Mart location inside Atlanta, which opened Oct.
18 on Howell Mill Drive in gay-centric Midtown.

Now Benham is promoting a nationwide boycott and demonstration against
Wal-Mart during the Thanksgiving weekend shopping free-for-all.

Planned in conjunction with conservative groups Americans for Truth and
the American Family Association, the move is a right-of-center
retaliation against the retail giant for its partnership with the
National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, which chamber officials say
could add gay-owned businesses to the vast Wal-Mart supply chain.

But to Benham, when Wal-Mart paid $25,000 to join the NGLCC in August,
the largest retailer in the world bowed down to "extortion from the
radical homosexual movement."

"It's happened over and over again with corporations throughout
this country. Every single corporation that you can imagine, the
homosexual community has come in and said, 'If you don't do what we
want you to do and give us a little cash, then we're going to label
you homophobic and not gay friendly,'" Benham said, also citing
IBM, Delta and Coca-Cola as alleged corporate blackmail victims.

Benham referred to Operation Save America's day-after-Thanksgiving
Wal-Mart demonstrations as a "gospel information explosion," during
which he and his followers will distribute handbills "exposing the
truth about the way the homosexual agenda" has shaped Wal-Mart policy
to customers and employees.

The American Family Association, which is based in Mississippi and
boasts more than 3 million members, launched an online petition asking
its membership to pledge to boycott the stores during the busy shopping
weekend.

"Our responsibility is to get this information out, and what better
time than the busiest shopping day of the year?" Benham said.


Wal-Mart reaches out to 'multiple groups'

By working with the NGLCC and other gay groups, Wal-Mart is giving a
"show of support to help homosexuals legalize samesex marriage,"
according to the Americans for Truth website. The site claims that
Wal-Mart is forwarding 5 percent of the value of online sales from
walmart.com to the Washington D.C. Center for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual &
Transgender People.

David Tovar, director of communications for Wal-Mart, disputed that
claim. He noted that the gay center receives only a percentage of sales
from people who click on walmart.com from a link on the gay center's
website - not all online sales.

"The program that they're talking about is basically our affiliate
program. And it's designed to drive web traffic to our site. It's a
very common online marketing practice.

"We have more than 43,000 organizations that participate in the
affiliate program.

Affiliates ask to be included in the program and receive a small
percentage of the sales based on the customers they refer," he said.

To date, Tovar said, the D.C. center had received $4.17 in compensation
for walmart.com link referrals.

Wal-Mart takes no stance on the issue of legalizing gay marriage, and
reaches out to "multiple groups" as a business matter, as well as a
"commitment" to diversity, according to Tovar.

NGLCC Co-Founder and CEO Chance Mitchell said his group addresses
business and economic affairs, not winning the battle for gay marriage.

"Our focus is on issues like business and healthcare. To the extent
that there's overlap with the issue of marriage, obviously we feel
like marriage equality is something important because it affects things
like healthcare and inheritance rights. That's just one example of
how they twist the facts to suit their own purposes. It sells a little
bit better for their membership," Mitchell said.

According to Benham, the "radical homosexual agenda" took its cue
to extort corporate America from the African-American civil rights
movement. In the 1980s, Benham said, activists for people of color like
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition founder Rev. Jesse Jackson successfully taunted
companies with claims of racial discrimination.

"He would go to a corporation and say 'I think that there's some
racial discrimination. I think it's happening. I think I see it. But
if you could give $50,000 to the NAACP, I might not see it,'"
Benham said, accusing Jackson of extortion.

Benham charged that there have been similar conversations between gay
rights organizations and corporate executives.

"They have perfected this. The homosexual community is saying, 'I
think that I see discrimination here. I see what you're doing and you
are homophobic. You wouldn't want to be branded homophobic, would
you,'" he said.

Business as usual Wal-Mart earned a score of 65 out of 100 on the Human
Rights Campaign's 2006 Corporate Equality Index, the highest score
the retailer has ever reached on the national gay political group's
ratings. Up from a 57 in 2005, the higher score was partially credited
to the NGLCC partnership.

Wal-Mart includes sexual orientation in its employee non-discrimination
policy, but only offers domestic partner benefits in the few
jurisdictions where it is required by law, according to HRC.

Wal-Mart does look to attract gay men and lesbians, as well as other
urban populations, for its new metropolitan stores.

Tovar said that Wal-Mart will stock urban stores with merchandise the
company feels will appeal to the people who live nearby.

"We try and provide as much as we can for as many people as we can in
a diverse community," Tovar said.

On the day after Thanksgiving and beyond, business will proceed as
usual at Wal-Mart, despite any boycotts, Tovar said.

"The way we're going to counter it, I believe, is to remain
committed to offering a shopping environment that is familyfriendly,
and we look forward to serving all of our customers for their Christmas
and holiday needs," he said.
Parsifal
2006-11-17 13:58:46 UTC
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bob&carole
2006-11-17 14:02:41 UTC
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Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
(usual sexually repressed nonsense snipped)
You mean censored don't you Adolph?
But thanks for proving our point........


{usual factual information reinserted}

NATIONAL NEWS

Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'


By ZACK HUDSON
Friday, November 17, 2006


"The homosexual community isn't going to shop at Wal-Mart. That's
not where they shop," said Rev. Phillip Benham, whose organization
tasks itself with combating the agendas of Muslims, abortion rights
groups, and gay men and lesbians.


But Wal-Mart officials are betting otherwise with a new wave of stores
opening in major metropolitan markets throughout the United States -
including the first Wal-Mart location inside Atlanta, which opened Oct.

18 on Howell Mill Drive in gay-centric Midtown.


Now Benham is promoting a nationwide boycott and demonstration against
Wal-Mart during the Thanksgiving weekend shopping free-for-all.


Planned in conjunction with conservative groups Americans for Truth and

the American Family Association, the move is a right-of-center
retaliation against the retail giant for its partnership with the
National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce, which chamber officials say

could add gay-owned businesses to the vast Wal-Mart supply chain.


But to Benham, when Wal-Mart paid $25,000 to join the NGLCC in August,
the largest retailer in the world bowed down to "extortion from the
radical homosexual movement."


"It's happened over and over again with corporations throughout
this country. Every single corporation that you can imagine, the
homosexual community has come in and said, 'If you don't do what we
want you to do and give us a little cash, then we're going to label
you homophobic and not gay friendly,'" Benham said, also citing
IBM, Delta and Coca-Cola as alleged corporate blackmail victims.


Benham referred to Operation Save America's day-after-Thanksgiving
Wal-Mart demonstrations as a "gospel information explosion," during
which he and his followers will distribute handbills "exposing the
truth about the way the homosexual agenda" has shaped Wal-Mart policy
to customers and employees.


The American Family Association, which is based in Mississippi and
boasts more than 3 million members, launched an online petition asking
its membership to pledge to boycott the stores during the busy shopping

weekend.


"Our responsibility is to get this information out, and what better
time than the busiest shopping day of the year?" Benham said.


Wal-Mart reaches out to 'multiple groups'


By working with the NGLCC and other gay groups, Wal-Mart is giving a
"show of support to help homosexuals legalize samesex marriage,"
according to the Americans for Truth website. The site claims that
Wal-Mart is forwarding 5 percent of the value of online sales from
walmart.com to the Washington D.C. Center for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual &
Transgender People.


David Tovar, director of communications for Wal-Mart, disputed that
claim. He noted that the gay center receives only a percentage of sales

from people who click on walmart.com from a link on the gay center's
website - not all online sales.


"The program that they're talking about is basically our affiliate
program. And it's designed to drive web traffic to our site. It's a
very common online marketing practice.


"We have more than 43,000 organizations that participate in the
affiliate program.


Affiliates ask to be included in the program and receive a small
percentage of the sales based on the customers they refer," he said.


To date, Tovar said, the D.C. center had received $4.17 in compensation

for walmart.com link referrals.


Wal-Mart takes no stance on the issue of legalizing gay marriage, and
reaches out to "multiple groups" as a business matter, as well as a
"commitment" to diversity, according to Tovar.


NGLCC Co-Founder and CEO Chance Mitchell said his group addresses
business and economic affairs, not winning the battle for gay marriage.



"Our focus is on issues like business and healthcare. To the extent
that there's overlap with the issue of marriage, obviously we feel
like marriage equality is something important because it affects things

like healthcare and inheritance rights. That's just one example of
how they twist the facts to suit their own purposes. It sells a little
bit better for their membership," Mitchell said.


According to Benham, the "radical homosexual agenda" took its cue
to extort corporate America from the African-American civil rights
movement. In the 1980s, Benham said, activists for people of color like

Rainbow/PUSH Coalition founder Rev. Jesse Jackson successfully taunted
companies with claims of racial discrimination.


"He would go to a corporation and say 'I think that there's some
racial discrimination. I think it's happening. I think I see it. But
if you could give $50,000 to the NAACP, I might not see it,'"
Benham said, accusing Jackson of extortion.


Benham charged that there have been similar conversations between gay
rights organizations and corporate executives.


"They have perfected this. The homosexual community is saying, 'I
think that I see discrimination here. I see what you're doing and you
are homophobic. You wouldn't want to be branded homophobic, would
you,'" he said.


Business as usual Wal-Mart earned a score of 65 out of 100 on the Human

Rights Campaign's 2006 Corporate Equality Index, the highest score
the retailer has ever reached on the national gay political group's
ratings. Up from a 57 in 2005, the higher score was partially credited
to the NGLCC partnership.


Wal-Mart includes sexual orientation in its employee non-discrimination

policy, but only offers domestic partner benefits in the few
jurisdictions where it is required by law, according to HRC.


Wal-Mart does look to attract gay men and lesbians, as well as other
urban populations, for its new metropolitan stores.


Tovar said that Wal-Mart will stock urban stores with merchandise the
company feels will appeal to the people who live nearby.


"We try and provide as much as we can for as many people as we can in
a diverse community," Tovar said.


On the day after Thanksgiving and beyond, business will proceed as
usual at Wal-Mart, despite any boycotts, Tovar said.


"The way we're going to counter it, I believe, is to remain
committed to offering a shopping environment that is familyfriendly,
and we look forward to serving all of our customers for their Christmas

and holiday needs," he said.
Parsifal
2006-11-17 14:09:09 UTC
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Post by bob&carole
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
(usual sexually repressed nonsense snipped)
You mean censored don't you Adolph?
No, I mean "nonsense"...

Tell us, boob, IF you're not gay ("IF"), why practically every single
posting you send is about homosexuality?
And why do you keep sending them to discussion groups on atheism,
abortion amd judaism?
james g. keegan jr.
2006-11-17 15:10:15 UTC
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Post by Parsifal
Post by bob&carole
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
(usual sexually repressed nonsense snipped)
You mean censored don't you Adolph?
No, I mean "nonsense"...
Tell us, boob, IF you're not gay ("IF"), why practically every single
posting you send is about homosexuality?
And why do you keep sending them to discussion groups on atheism,
abortion amd judaism?
it's clear that boob is gay.
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-17 16:06:04 UTC
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Post by james g. keegan jr.
Post by Parsifal
Post by bob&carole
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
(usual sexually repressed nonsense snipped)
You mean censored don't you Adolph?
No, I mean "nonsense"...
Tell us, boob, IF you're not gay ("IF"), why practically every single
posting you send is about homosexuality?
And why do you keep sending them to discussion groups on atheism,
abortion amd judaism?
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.
ScottyFLL
2006-11-17 17:48:39 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Dennis Kemmerer
2006-11-17 22:18:07 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Psst. That's what he named his blowup doll.
ScottyFLL
2006-11-17 22:53:54 UTC
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Post by Dennis Kemmerer
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Psst. That's what he named his blowup doll.
I thought the doll's name was Steve.
Dennis Kemmerer
2006-11-18 01:15:00 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Dennis Kemmerer
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Psst. That's what he named his blowup doll.
I thought the doll's name was Steve.
That's its real name.
Al Klein
2006-11-18 01:59:07 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Dennis Kemmerer
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Psst. That's what he named his blowup doll.
I thought the doll's name was Steve.
It's Carole-with-a-strap-on.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"For aught we know a priori, matter may contain the source, or spring, of order
originating within itself, as well as the mind does."
- David Hume, Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion
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âlant.org
2006-11-18 09:13:59 UTC
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Post by Al Klein
It's Carole-with-a-strap-on.
Doing you, huh, Alice?
Juanjo
2006-11-19 00:25:46 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
It's Carole-with-a-strap-on.
Doing you, huh, Alice?
Must be the name the baboon uses for his boy toy
ScottyFLL
2006-11-19 00:35:34 UTC
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Post by Juanjo
Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
It's Carole-with-a-strap-on.
Doing you, huh, Alice?
Must be the name the baboon uses for his boy toy
He spelled it wrong (again). Should be "Alex".
Al Klein
2006-11-19 02:33:46 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Juanjo
Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
It's Carole-with-a-strap-on.
Doing you, huh, Alice?
Must be the name the baboon uses for his boy toy
He spelled it wrong (again). Should be "Alex".
No, his boitoi is an inflatable woman with a banana strapped on. Maybe
the banana's name is Alex.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"religion did for bullshit, what Stonehenge did for rocks"
- The World Famous Tink
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Robibnikoff
2006-11-20 15:49:51 UTC
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Post by Al Klein
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Juanjo
Post by âlant.org
Post by Al Klein
It's Carole-with-a-strap-on.
Doing you, huh, Alice?
Must be the name the baboon uses for his boy toy
He spelled it wrong (again). Should be "Alex".
No, his boitoi is an inflatable woman with a banana strapped on. Maybe
the banana's name is Alex.
No, it's probably Kirk Cameron. He seems to like bananas.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Robibnikoff
2006-11-20 15:49:06 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Dennis Kemmerer
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Psst. That's what he named his blowup doll.
I thought the doll's name was Steve.
No, I think it's Bruce, actually.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Robert
2006-11-18 20:08:26 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:18:07 GMT, "Dennis Kemmerer"
Post by Dennis Kemmerer
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
Psst. That's what he named his blowup doll.
I think that Carole is his drag identity.
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-17 23:26:20 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Or Carole is a lesbian...
There is no "carole".
At least not from Monday through Thursday...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because
if there be one, He must approve the homage of Reason rather
than that of blindfolded Fear"
- Thomas Jefferson
Geoff
2006-11-18 14:41:56 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by james g. keegan jr.
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
Oh come on, Mark. Leave her out of it. Don't you think she has enough
problems? She probably has cigarette burns all over her arms for not ironing
his brown shirts just so.
ScottyFLL
2006-11-18 16:00:43 UTC
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Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by james g. keegan jr.
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
Oh come on, Mark. Leave her out of it. Don't you think she has enough
problems? She probably has cigarette burns all over her arms for not ironing
his brown shirts just so.
Yeah, right. Like "carole" exists and like blob owns an iron. Sheesh!
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-18 16:39:55 UTC
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Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by james g. keegan jr.
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
Oh come on, Mark. Leave her out of it. Don't you think she has enough
problems? She probably has cigarette burns all over her arms for not ironing
his brown shirts just so.
Are you suggesting Carole is some kind of separate person?

Don't be silly...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
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Christianity is to religions as Windows is to operating systems.
-Scott (#1045)
Geoff
2006-11-18 16:48:42 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by james g. keegan jr.
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
Oh come on, Mark. Leave her out of it. Don't you think she has enough
problems? She probably has cigarette burns all over her arms for not ironing
his brown shirts just so.
Are you suggesting Carole is some kind of separate person?
Don't be silly...
Oh? No kidding? Is that like when George goes to the NY Marathon party
wearing Kramer's dad's wedding ring and a woman asks him if he's really
married because some guys just wear the rings to hit on women. Then George
says, "Really? You'd have to be a real loser to do something like that!"

Seriously though, do you have some knowledge about Bob's possibly fictitious
and certainly dysfunctional arrangement?
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-18 18:18:22 UTC
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Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by james g. keegan jr.
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
Oh come on, Mark. Leave her out of it. Don't you think she has enough
problems? She probably has cigarette burns all over her arms for not ironing
his brown shirts just so.
Are you suggesting Carole is some kind of separate person?
Don't be silly...
Oh? No kidding? Is that like when George goes to the NY Marathon party
wearing Kramer's dad's wedding ring and a woman asks him if he's really
married because some guys just wear the rings to hit on women. Then George
says, "Really? You'd have to be a real loser to do something like that!"
Seriously though, do you have some knowledge about Bob's possibly fictitious
and certainly dysfunctional arrangement?
I just have suspicions you never actually see them in a room at the same
time...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due
to the absence, from Jerusalem, of a lunatic asylum.
-Havelock Ellis
âlant.org
2006-11-19 00:32:40 UTC
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 12:18:22 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Geoff
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by james g. keegan jr.
it's clear that boob is gay.
Or Carole is a lesbian...
Oh come on, Mark. Leave her out of it. Don't you think she has enough
problems? She probably has cigarette burns all over her arms for not ironing
his brown shirts just so.
Are you suggesting Carole is some kind of separate person?
Don't be silly...
Oh? No kidding? Is that like when George goes to the NY Marathon party
wearing Kramer's dad's wedding ring and a woman asks him if he's really
married because some guys just wear the rings to hit on women. Then George
says, "Really? You'd have to be a real loser to do something like that!"
Seriously though, do you have some knowledge about Bob's possibly fictitious
and certainly dysfunctional arrangement?
I just have suspicions you never actually see them in a room at the same
time...
You have never seen just one of "them", Dildo. Why do you lie about
such trivial shit. I suspect that its because you can't not lie.
Pr0r3p
2006-11-17 14:17:58 UTC
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Post by bob&carole
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
(usual sexually repressed nonsense snipped)
You mean censored don't you Adolph?
He stated that material had been "snipped" which is in indication that
the reader should refer to your posting if they wish to see what was
removed. Thinking that someone is censoring you when they snip your
post (but mark it as snipped) only goes to show how limited your
thought process is.
Post by bob&carole
But thanks for proving our point........
You only managed to prove that the only point you have is on top of
your head.

<snip remainder>

Ooops, anyone care to bet that homobob screams that I censored him?
âlant.org
2006-11-18 07:43:53 UTC
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Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
Sure there is boy, you're simply too fucked with AIDS to understand
it:

Selling Homosexuality
by Matt Kaufman

You generally know an ad campaign when you see it, and you don't take
it seriously. You may buy Pepsi, but you don't really believe drinking
it makes you cool because Britney Spears pitches it.

But you may not recognize an ad campaign so easily when it's not
relegated to paid 30-second spots. Or when the product being sold
isn't a soft drink, but an idea, or an attitude, or a worldview.

Which brings us to a fascinating article in the Regent University Law
Review. In an issue analyzing various aspects of gay activism, one
piece is especially noteworthy: “Selling Homosexuality to America” by
Paul Rondeau, a longtime sales and marketing consultant for corporate
America. Rondeau shows how homosexual activists have pursued a
specific marketing campaign aimed at moving America in their direction
— a strategy that's worked precisely because it was both clever and
covert.

Rondeau's evidence doesn't come just from right-wingers. He quotes
people like Tammy Bruce, a lesbian and ex-president of the Los Angeles
chapter of the National Organization for Women who these days voices
concern that gay activists are squelching other citizens' freedoms.
Speaking of the marketing strategy, Bruce notes that "What is pitched
is different — a product brand versus an issue — but the method is the
same. In each case, the critical thing is not to let the public know
how it is done."

But Rondeau's most compelling evidence comes straight from the people
who designed the gay PR campaign: Harvard-trained social scientists
Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, who in the late ‘80s issued a call
for gay activists to adopt "carefully calculated public relations
propaganda." Their strategy came dressed up in marketing jargon:
“Desensitize, jam and convert.” As it turns out, though, you could use
one word to summarize all those others: manipulation.

Desensitization, write Kirk and Madsen, means subjecting the public to
a “continuous flood of gay-related advertising, presented in the least
offensive fashion possible. If straights can’t shut off the shower,
they may at least eventually get used to being wet.”

Again, this doesn’t mean conventional advertising. “The main thing is
to talk about gayness until the issue becomes thoroughly tiresome,”
they say. “If you can get [straights] to think homosexuality is just
another thing — meriting no more than a shrug of the shoulders — then
your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won.” Turn on the
TV practically any night, watch the endless stream of gay characters
and references, and you’ll get the idea.

Jamming means, simply, smearing anyone who disagrees with their
agenda. “Jam homohatred [i.e., opposition to homosexuality] by linking
it to Nazi horror,” urge Kirk and Madsen; associate all detractors
with images like “Klansmen demanding that gays be slaughtered,”
“hysterical backwoods preachers,” “menacing punks,” and a “tour of
Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed.”

Moreover, they add,

gays can undermine the moral authority of homohating churches over
less fervent adherents by portraying [them] as antiquated backwaters,
badly out of step . . . with the latest findings of psychology.
Against the atavistic tug of Old Time Religion one must set the
mightier pull of Science and Public Opinion. . . . Such an ‘unholy’
alliance has already worked well in America against the churches, on
such topics as divorce and abortion. . . . [T]hat alliance can work
for gays.”

Conversion means “conversion of the average American’s emotions, mind,
and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of
propaganda fed to the nation via the media.” Here, too, the portrayal
of homosexuality on TV fits the mold perfectly. The viewer who’s not
on board with homosexuality (whom they call “the bigot") is to be
“repeatedly exposed to literal picture/label pairs . . . of gays . . .
carefully selected to look either like the bigot and his friends, or
like any of his other stereotypes of all the right guys.”

Kirk and Madsen don’t want to stop there, though. They want to “paint
gay men and lesbians as superior — veritable pillars of society.” To
this end, “famous historical figures are considered especially useful
to us;” not only do they bring prestige, they’re also “invariably dead
as a doornail, hence in no position to deny the truth and sue for
libel.” (Good thing, too, considering the flimsy evidence that often
gets trotted out in these cases. Gays and their allies have even
claimed biblical figures like Abraham and David for their camp.1)

Of course, Kirk and Madsen are well aware that there are also plenty
of things not to portray. They stress the need to keep quiet about the
details of homosexual practices, at least until the public is
thoroughly desensitized. “First you get your foot in the door, by
being as similar as possible; then, and only then — when your one
little difference [sexual orientation] is finally accepted — can you
start dragging in your other peculiarities, one by one.”

What “peculiarities?” Well, to take one that’s been in the news
lately, sex between adults and minors, as advocated by groups like the
North American Man-Boy Love Association. “We’re not judging you, but
others do, and very harshly; please keep a low profile,” Kirk and
Madsen tell such groups. “You offend the public more than other
gays.”2

What else? As Rondeau says,

Pederasts, gender-benders, sado-masochists, and other minorities
within the homosexual community with more extreme “peculiarities”
would keep a low profile. . . . Also, common practices such as
anal-oral sex, anal sex, fisting and anonymous sex — that is to say
what homosexuals actually do and with how many they do it — must never
be a topic.

Beyond reporting on the details of the PR campaign, Rondeau’s great
service is to show readers that it even exists. “It is not common
practice to think of social movements in terms of marketing,” he
notes. “Perhaps this is because using terms like ‘selling’ or
‘marketing’ seems to denigrate noble activities” usually portrayed by
their supporters “in terms of grass roots and the will of the people.”
In reality, however, “homosexual activists envision that a decision is
ultimately made without society ever realizing that it has been
purposely conditioned to arrive at a conclusion it thinks is its own.”

That last point is an important one. We all like to think we make up
our own minds — after full consideration of all the issues, with equal
time for both sides, etc. We also like to think that public opinion
arises spontaneously, more or less organically from ordinary people
reacting to their own life experience. After all, it’s not very
flattering to think of yourself and the people you know as, well,
sheep. (Someone has defined public opinion as “what everyone thinks
everyone else thinks.”)

In short, one reason we can be manipulated is that we don’t want to
know we’re being manipulated. Yet when someone blows the lid off the
manipulation campaign — as Rondeau has — we can hardly miss it. And
once we know what’s going on, we naturally and rightly resent it.

Rondeau’s article isn’t likely to get much coverage in the standard
media outlets, for obvious reason. Nor is it likely to get wide
attention among academics, since it ran in the journal of a
conservative Christian university. (Academic snobbery can play as big
a role as liberal politics.)

But the Internet transcends traditional media and academic
gatekeepers. If half the people who read this column forward it to a
few of their friends, word will get around to an awful lot of folk.
Not as many as watch Will & Grace, mind you, but maybe enough to get a
real debate going on the merits of homosexuality — on issues like
where it comes from (click here and here), what's wrong with it and
how it distorts God's plan (click here and here).

A real debate. Somehow I think that’s the last thing the Kirks and
Madsens of the world want to see.

1 According to Debra Haffner, former head of the Sexuality Information
and Education Council of the United States, scriptural passages
positively portray "sexual contact and love between men." David and
Jonathan were lovers, and Abraham asks his servant to swear an oath by
putting "your hand under my thigh" (Genesis 24:2).

But a team of theologians led by Craig Blomberg of Denver Seminary
points out (in "What the Bible Really Says About Sex") that "only
modern Westerners unfamiliar with the physical expression of
friendship between men in the Middle East would mistake the Bible's
references for homosexuality." The placement of Abraham’s servant’s
hand near an intimate location, for example, was an expression of the
solemnity of a vow.

The authors are especially unimpressed with claims of homosexuality in
the case of the unmistakably heterosexual David. "After Jonathan has
been killed in battle, David does indeed lament that 'his love to me
was wonderful, passing the love of women.' But . . . David's whole
point in this text is that Jonathan was his 'blood brother' with a
loyalty that surpassed that which mere eroticism creates."

2 Unlike the other quotes from Kirk and Madsen, this one doesn’t
appear in Rondeau’s article. But it comes from the same source as many
of their other quotes, their book After the Ball: How America Will
Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s (New York: Plume, 1990
edition, pp. 146-147).


Matt Kaufman is the editor of Boundless.

The complete text of this article is available at
http://www.boundless.org/2001/regulars/kaufman/a0000605.html
Parsifal
2006-11-18 08:06:51 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
Sure there is boy, you're simply too fucked with AIDS to understand
Hey, where you've been? It took you more than 12 hours to join this
thread... Must be record for a self-loathing closet-gay like you...
Boob was getting all nervous...
âlant.org
2006-11-19 00:28:40 UTC
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Post by Parsifal
Post by âlant.org
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
What a surprise: our favorite self-loathing closet-gay, boob, is
sending a posting about... homosexuality!!!
And what a coincidence: the very same news was sent a few days ago by
anoter self-loathing closet gay, J Young. All we need now are bibon and
Wentzky...
Care to tell us what this has to do with atheism and abortion, beside
proving that anti-choice, pseudo-christians are bastards?
Oh, and btw, there is no such thing as a "homosexual agenda".
Sure there is boy, you're simply too fucked with AIDS to understand
Hey, where you've been? It took you more than 12 hours to join this
thread... Must be record for a self-loathing closet-gay like you...
Boob was getting all nervous...
So, you accept my post on the homo-agenda as fact. Of course you do,
you have no other choice, boy.
ScottyFLL
2006-11-19 00:34:13 UTC
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Post by âlant.org
So, you accept my post
Nobody accepts your stupid little posts, baboon. You have yet to
present a valid argument.

Time to clean your cage, smelly little monkey.
IAAH
2006-11-17 14:08:44 UTC
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On 17 Nov 2006 05:46:23 -0800, "bobandcarole"
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
Gee, do you think that boycott will be as effective as the one
Disneyworld was under?

Oh, wait. That had no effect on them at all.
Robert
2006-11-17 19:49:41 UTC
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Post by IAAH
On 17 Nov 2006 05:46:23 -0800, "bobandcarole"
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
Gee, do you think that boycott will be as effective as the one
Disneyworld was under?
Oh, wait. That had no effect on them at all.
Normally I avoid Wally World, because in the past it seemed to be a
pro-Christian organization. In the future I think I will go out of my
way to buy from Wal-Mart.
ScottyFLL
2006-11-17 17:50:02 UTC
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Post by IAAH
On 17 Nov 2006 05:46:23 -0800, "bobandcarole"
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
Gee, do you think that boycott will be as effective as the one
Disneyworld was under?
Oh, wait. That had no effect on them at all.
Sure it did. They got a lot more of the gay disposable income as a
result, over a long period of time that continues to this day.
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-17 14:37:32 UTC
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Wal-Mart faces boycott for promoting homosexual agenda
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!"
- Blair Houghton
Joshua Aaron
2006-11-17 15:13:26 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
You are correct sir (think Ed McMahon)!

Wal Mart will have to be told of a boycott for the next four quarters
for it to become a marginal note in their profit reports.
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-17 16:03:26 UTC
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Post by Joshua Aaron
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
You are correct sir (think Ed McMahon)!
Did I win? One a them PS3 things?

Out of curiosity, I checked eBay, the loons are paying $6K for the damn
things!
Post by Joshua Aaron
Wal Mart will have to be told of a boycott for the next four quarters
for it to become a marginal note in their profit reports.
I have this curious image of a Chihuahua yipping angrily at an elephant...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe is fine tuned
for life is akin to a puddle being surprised at how well it
fits its hole"
-Douglas Adams
Al Klein
2006-11-17 16:31:31 UTC
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Post by Joshua Aaron
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
You are correct sir (think Ed McMahon)!
Wal Mart will have to be told of a boycott for the next four quarters
for it to become a marginal note in their profit reports.
Marginal note: The above unanticipated huge increases in all store
sales resulted even though there was a boycott against Wal-Mart in
effect at the time.

(Released into the public domain. Wal-Mart, feel free to copy it to
your annual report verbatim.)
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise
as false, and by the rulers as useful."
- Seneca the Younger
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bobandcarole
2006-11-17 15:16:27 UTC
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Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Save it for the gloryhole gobblers, it matches their intelligence.
RamRod Sword of Baal
2006-11-17 18:05:13 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Save it for the gloryhole gobblers, it matches their intelligence.
And the Fox said "Those grapes are sour anyway" :-)
Al Klein
2006-11-17 20:37:19 UTC
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:05:13 +1000, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod
@truthonly> wrote:

[piggybacking]
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Save it for the gloryhole gobblers, it matches their intelligence.
The stockholders - real adults - don't really care who their dividends
come from. Gay, straight, Martian - it's all US dollars and all
spends the same.

And, as John Baker said, the other real adults - the customers - care
how much they're spending on the kid's new winter jacket - $20 at
Wal-Mart or $50 at some anti-gay store. They'll opt for the $30
saving. The few bigoted religious nuts who prefer to take the $30
"morality-penalty" hit won't impact Wal-Mart's bottom line enough to
notice.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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ScottyFLL
2006-11-17 20:47:05 UTC
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Post by Al Klein
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:05:13 +1000, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod
[piggybacking]
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Save it for the gloryhole gobblers, it matches their intelligence.
The stockholders - real adults - don't really care who their dividends
come from. Gay, straight, Martian - it's all US dollars and all
spends the same.
And, as John Baker said, the other real adults - the customers - care
how much they're spending on the kid's new winter jacket - $20 at
Wal-Mart or $50 at some anti-gay store. They'll opt for the $30
saving. The few bigoted religious nuts who prefer to take the $30
"morality-penalty" hit won't impact Wal-Mart's bottom line enough to
notice.
It won't be noticed at all. They'll be shopping at Wal-Mart on the day
before and the day after the boycott. It will be utterly ineffective.
Al Klein
2006-11-17 22:07:00 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
It won't be noticed at all. They'll be shopping at Wal-Mart on the day
before and the day after the boycott. It will be utterly ineffective.
Even assuming that Wal-Mart did no business at all for one day, that's
0.3% of their business - hardly a blip on the curve.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
- Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei
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No One
2006-11-18 04:30:08 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Al Klein
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:05:13 +1000, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod
[piggybacking]
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Save it for the gloryhole gobblers, it matches their intelligence.
The stockholders - real adults - don't really care who their dividends
come from. Gay, straight, Martian - it's all US dollars and all
spends the same.
And, as John Baker said, the other real adults - the customers - care
how much they're spending on the kid's new winter jacket - $20 at
Wal-Mart or $50 at some anti-gay store. They'll opt for the $30
saving. The few bigoted religious nuts who prefer to take the $30
"morality-penalty" hit won't impact Wal-Mart's bottom line enough to
notice.
It won't be noticed at all. They'll be shopping at Wal-Mart on the day
before and the day after the boycott. It will be utterly ineffective.
Not only that, but the customers who do show up on those days will see
slightly shorter lines (the day after Thanksgiving is the traditional
start of Christmas shopping) and will think more highly of
Wal-Mart. Spreading out the load is in Wal-Mart's interest. :-)
bobandcarole
2006-11-17 22:18:31 UTC
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Post by Al Klein
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 04:05:13 +1000, "RamRod Sword of Baal" <RamRod
[piggybacking]
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Save it for the gloryhole gobblers, it matches their intelligence.
The stockholders - real adults - don't really care who their dividends
come from. Gay, straight, Martian - it's all US dollars and all
spends the same.
As I said, let the homos make the straight stockholders rich.
Post by Al Klein
And, as John Baker said, the other real adults - the customers - care
how much they're spending on the kid's new winter jacket - $20 at
Wal-Mart or $50 at some anti-gay store.
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.


They'll opt for the $30
Post by Al Klein
saving.
Only the poor trash that have small budgets and must shop at thrift
stores like Walmart.

The few bigoted religious nuts who prefer to take the $30
Post by Al Klein
"morality-penalty" hit won't impact Wal-Mart's bottom line enough to
notice.
I guess we shall see............
Post by Al Klein
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
I guess everybody is wrong at least once...
Post by Al Klein
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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ScottyFLL
2006-11-17 22:55:35 UTC
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Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
bobandcarole
2006-11-17 23:51:22 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
"WE"?
Who is "we"?
You only speak for yourself faggot.
That's your problem, you think you're the spokeswoman for the group and
you're not.
Most people don't like you, faggot.

Still waiting for your "lawsuit"...LOL
ScottyFLL
2006-11-18 01:18:58 UTC
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Post by bobandcarole
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
"WE"?
Who is "we"?
Nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
Post by bobandcarole
You only speak for yourself faggot.
I'm speaking for nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
Post by bobandcarole
That's your problem, you think you're the spokeswoman for the group and
you're not.
I can speak for whoever I like. Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
agree". Until they do, we can just assume that they agree (because
nearly 100% of people who post here do indeed know that you are vulgar
beyond description).
Post by bobandcarole
Most people don't like you, faggot.
That is not true.
Post by bobandcarole
Still waiting for your "lawsuit"...LOL
Why are you so obsessed with that?
bobandcarole
2006-11-18 14:55:29 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
"WE"?
Who is "we"?
Nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
And just who gave you permission to speak for them, liar?
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
You only speak for yourself faggot.
I'm speaking for nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
And just who gave you permission to speak for them, liar?
Post by bobandcarole
That's your problem, you think you're the spokeswoman for the group and
you're not.
I can speak for whoever I like.
It's funny how the turd tamers think that way...............



Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Better watch out, they might sue you.
LOL

Until they do, we can just assume that they agree (because
Post by ScottyFLL
nearly 100% of people who post here do indeed know that you are vulgar
beyond description).
Says the foul mouthed faggot
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
Most people don't like you, faggot.
That is not true.
Thats VERY true
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
Still waiting for your "lawsuit"...LOL
Why are you so obsessed with that?
Because I love making fun of you, liar :-)
ScottyFLL
2006-11-18 15:58:24 UTC
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<<<blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh>>>
<<< more blahaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh>>>
That's OK, blob. You'll be all right. It's only two days that you
have to stay away from Walmart to make your HUGE statement!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!! You can stock up on your polyester-wear on Wednesday,
and go back on Saturday! Walmart will get the message!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!
ScottyFLL
2006-11-18 15:59:40 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...

LOL!!!!!!!!!
Miriam Cohen
2006-11-19 02:00:44 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
--
L'Chaim

Miriam

In the beginning
the Word already was.
bobandcarole
2006-11-19 02:05:15 UTC
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Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
James Riske disagrees.....
Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
Please do, you'll fit right in with the rest of the trash that shops
there.
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Post by bobandcarole
Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
James Riske disagrees.....
Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
Please do, you'll fit right in with the rest of the trash that shops
there.
Oh...you're among the snobs who shop at "Tar-JHAY"

Pau

--
ScottyFLL
2006-11-19 14:17:04 UTC
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Post by bobandcarole
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
James Riske disagrees.....
LOL!!!!!!! Well, first of all, I'm not finding a post that says
that... and secondly, who cares? I mean, it's James Riske, and it's
also only ONE person out of all of usenet!

My point is proved and your desperate attempt to find one person who
disagrees only strengthens my assertion: everyone hates you!
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-19 16:14:09 UTC
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Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural and if you don't shop at Wal-Mart you... don't shop. It's
those "blue state" city folk that have tons of choices and can skip
Wal-Mart.

I *despise Wal-Mart (long story having to do with the Katrina aftermath
I'll skip for now) but I'm afraid the gas station convenience stores just
won't cut it as an alternative...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken
ScottyFLL
2006-11-19 16:24:23 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural and if you don't shop at Wal-Mart you... don't shop.
That explains why they dress the way they do. The one time I was in
Wal-Mart, I hurt my foot running from the bad taste.
Mark K. Bilbo
2006-11-19 16:32:07 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural and if you don't shop at Wal-Mart you... don't shop.
That explains why they dress the way they do. The one time I was in
Wal-Mart, I hurt my foot running from the bad taste.
They? Um... yeah, *them...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other.
They slander each other constantly with the vilest forms of
abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement in their
teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its
own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs
of those it wins over to its side." -Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
bobandcarole
2006-11-19 16:38:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural
It doesn't look rural to me:

http://www.priceviewer.com/walmart_locations/

and if you don't shop at Wal-Mart you... don't shop. It's
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
those "blue state" city folk that have tons of choices and can skip
Wal-Mart.
I *despise Wal-Mart (long story having to do with the Katrina aftermath
I'll skip for now)
Thanks for sparing us!!
ScottyFLL
2006-11-19 21:30:41 UTC
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Post by Mark K. Bilbo
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural
You really have trouble following a conversation, dontcha blob? Time
to close the spigot and put away that vintage box-wine you're so fond
of. Maybe "carole" can cook ya up some possum stew. Yer gettin' messy
agin.
bobandcarole
2006-11-19 16:38:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural
It doesn't look rural to me:

http://www.priceviewer.com/walmart_locations/

and if you don't shop at Wal-Mart you... don't shop. It's
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
those "blue state" city folk that have tons of choices and can skip
Wal-Mart.
I *despise Wal-Mart (long story having to do with the Katrina aftermath
I'll skip for now)
Thanks for sparing us!!
c***@aol.com
2006-11-19 16:50:49 UTC
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America's biggest child sex cult is the Church, the same religion as the
President and his followers.
Right wing white American pedophile who support Bush attended it every
Sunday.
NAMBLA was founded by a respected member of the Baptist faith, he was a
conservative.
Here's a sample of a list which contains over 1,000 incidents where
Conservative Clergy had sex with children.
http://www.reformation.com/



MINNEAPOLIS, MN-An organization calling itself SNAP (Survivors Network
of those Abused by Priests) will file a lawsuit against an Episcopal
priest who abused a California youngster years ago, and still serves in
a parish today. David Clohessy, 46, a national director of SNAP told
VIRTUOSITY that he could not name the priest pending the suit, but would
release the name shortly. Clohessy did express one serious concern. "I
fear that some 400 ex-Roman Catholic priests will surface in other
denominations including the Episcopal Church." (Aug. 2, 2003)

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Eddie Thomas, pastor of St. Luke Baptist Church in Ringgold, LA., is
arrested and charged with indecent behavior with a juvenile, aggravated
incest and pornography involving a juvenile. (the Shreveport Times, July
17, 2003)
Police seize videotape alleged to show sex with child

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_____________________________________________

South Austrailia, AUS. A South Australian police task force into child
sex abuse within the Anglican Church had identified 217 victims and 48
possible offenders, police said today. However the number of victims
could rise to more than 400 as investigations continued, Police
Commissioner Mal Hyde said. Mr Hyde today likened the scale of police
investigations into child sex abuse to those for the infamous Snowtown
bodies-in-the-barrels murders in 1999. (The Age, July 16 2003)
Major sex abuse uncovered in Anglican Church

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Vicar Rev Robin Everett of Castle Donnington, Leics, is convicted of
indecently assaulting two young girls. (UK Telegraph, June 7, 2003)
Vicar faces prison for sex assaults

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Lake Wales, FL. The pastor at the Church of the Nazarene has been
charged with sexually assaulting a male 17-year-old youth leader three
times in 2001. The Rev. Gene Francis, 52, of Lake Wales, was arrested
Tuesday and charged with unlawful sexual activity with a minor.
(Sarasota Herald-Tribune, June 4, 2003)
Lake Wales minister arrested in sexual assault case

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_____________________________________________

Tuscon, AZ. The Rev. David Valencia, 47, assistant pastor of a
Pentecostal church is expected in court Wednesday on rape charges issued
by Pennsylvania authorities. In Pennsylvania, Valencia was an assistant
pastor at Christ Church at Grove Farm, an interdenominational church
that uses Anglican liturgy. The pastor of Christ Church, the Rev. John
Guest, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that Valencia was dismissed in
late 2001 because he was found to have pornography on an office computer
after he was warned about a similar incident months earlier. (Tucson
Citizen, May 31, 2003)
Rev. David Valencia allegedly had sex with a 17-year-old girl he was
counseling

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

PORTLAND, OR. Church volunteer pleaded innocent to 26 counts of rape,
sodomy and sex abuse. Derrick Mayberry was indicted by a grand jury on
Tuesday and entered the plea on Wednesday. Mayberry, 23, was arrested
May 15 on accusations of raping two teenage girls he met while
volunteering at the New Beginnings Christian Center in northeast
Portland. The victims were 13 and 15 years old. (KOIN TV, May 29, 2003)
Church Worker, Coach Enters Plea In Sex Abuse Case
Church volunteer, coach faces sex abuse charges

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Queensland, AUS. In the small town of Seymour, townspeople are shocked
to learn that the late Anglican Fr. Sapsford molested dozens of alter
boys while he was married with children, and after his serial
molestation at another church was revealed in 1996. There are
allegations by the parents of the victim boys that the Archbishop
covered up the original allegations. The church is not compensating
victims while they consult with legal counsel. Anglican Father Walliker
says he is not shocked as he has seen this before in the Anglican
Church. (ABC online, May 8, 2003)
Cover-up left paedophile to prey on Vic altar boys

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

NEWARK, N.J. A convicted sex offender who was named pastor of a city
church several weeks ago has been removed from the post. Shiloh Baptist
Church leaders had hired the Rev. Chavalis T. Williams in mid-March,
even though they knew he had pleaded guilty in Florida to charges of
child abuse and using children in a sexual performance. (Newsday, May 7,
2003)
Convicted sex offender removed as pastor of Newark church

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Unidentified clergyman in Norway defends himself by accusing boys of
pestering him to provide pornography to them and pulling their pants
down for him. Criminal defendants in Norway are not identified by name.
(Nordlys, April 30, 2003)
Clergyman says boredom led him to child porn

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

An associate pastor of a San Fernando Valley chapel was sentenced to 32
months in prison on Tuesday for failing to register as a sex offender.
Ilger, a former second-grade teacher, was convicted in 1988 of molesting
four students in his San Luis Obispo classroom. After being released
from jail, Ilger and his family moved to Los Angeles, where he took a
position with Hope Chapel of the Valley in Canoga Park. "We've lived and
learned a painful lesson," the Rev. Jeff Fischer of Hope Chapel said
outside court. Fischer has said he and about 30 church elders knew that
Ilger had molested young girls before he was hired.
Sentencing (Associated Press, April 3, 2003)

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Marty A. Hynes, 33, is charged with eight counts of criminal sexual
contact of a minor, three counts of criminal sexual penetration of a
minor and one count of attempted criminal sexual contact of a minor.
Hynes was a youth pastor at the First Assembly of God church when the
alleged incidents occurred, between July and December 2001. (Las Cruces
Sun-News, March 24, 2003)
Trial of former youth pastor begins

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Milpitas, CA. A secretary to a LDS Bishop has admitted to sexually
molesting four children, and will be sentenced to 14 years in prison.
Craig Allen Harward, 54, pleaded guilty Monday to three counts of lewd
and lascivious acts on children under the age of 14, and no contest to a
fourth count of the same charge, Four of the case with the most
convincing evidence involved four boys -- two of whom were 10, one 11
and another 13 years old at the time they were molested. (SAan Fransisco
Chronicle, March 12, 2003)
Child molester pleads guilty

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Visalia, CA -- A 38-year-old Visalia man who was a leader in a local
Jehovah's Witness congregation may face up to 16 years in prison on
charges of sexually molesting a 12-year-old congregation member. Louis
Anguiano served until last year as an elder at the Kingdom Hall of
Jehovah's Witnesses at 5310 Caldwell Ave. He is accused of continuous
sexual abuse, over a two-year period, of a girl who attended the same
congregation. (The Fresno Bee, January 30, 2003)
Visalian who was a Jehovah's Witness leader accused by girl, 12.

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Tinley Park, IL. For the second time in two weeks, a Baptist pastor from
New Lenox has been charged with molesting a child - and prosecutors said
they are looking for more victims. Dennis Larry Shaw, 53, of the 2100
block of Sanford Drive, New Lenox, was charged Monday with aggravated
criminal sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl, according to the Will
County state's attorney's office. On Jan. 31, Shaw was arrested on
similar charges after a parishioner's 12-year-old daughter alleged she
was fondled by the pastor inside the church between October and
December, prosecutors said. (Daily Southtown, February 11, 2003)
Minister again charged with molestation

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Dayton, OH. A Trotwood minister, whose lawyer said he has been a "sex
addict" since age 10, sought treatment rather than face trial in a
Brookville police-run Internet sting that presented a virtual
14-year-old boy in a chat room. But a Montgomery County judge denied his
plea for treatment Tuesday. Turner's attorney, Dwight Brannon, wrote "He
had his first sexual experience with another male at the age of 19 while
in college. Shortly after he began surfing the Web . . . his addiction
slowly began to grow." Turner had been pastor of Anchor Community
Church, 38 S. Fairgreen Drive, for seven years when he was arrested last

summer. (Dayton Daily News, 01.29.2003)
Minister arrested in police-run Internet sting

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_____________________________________________

Lyons, NY. Former Lyons Minister Sentenced to 1 1/3 -3 years in State
Prison. The retired minister of the Mount Zion Baptist Church in Lyons
was sen-tenced to 1 1/3 to 3 years in state prisonon Tuesday (1/14).
Grady O. KempSr., age 65, ofWadley, Georgia, pled guilty to a reduced
crime of Course of Sexual Conduct Against a Child in the 2nd Degree-a
Class D Felony on December 12, 2002, sparing the step-daughter from
testifying. Kemp, when completing his prison term, must regis-ter as a
sexual predator. He had been indicted by a Wayne County Grand Jury in
July of last year, for one count of Sexual Mischief in the 1st Degree, 4
counts of Rape in the 2nd Degree, 2 counts of Rape in the 3rd Degree, 4
counts of Sex Abuse in the 2nd Degree, 2 counts of Sex Abuse in the 3rd
Degree and one count of Sodomy in the 2nd Degree, involving a step
daughter. Grady had been arrested on July 31, 2002. It is alleged that
the sexual activity with a step daughter began when the girl was 9 years
old and continued until she was 14. "He had sexual contact with the girl
hundreds of times," said Wayne County District Attorney, Rick Healy. The
incidents came to light when the girl, now 16 years old, began fidgeting
and praying. The next day the girlbegan crying and screaming at a family
gathering and said she could not hold it back any longer. The girl's
mother and Kemp's former wife, Lynda Kemp, said she and her daughter now
live in Panama City, Florida. According to Healy, Grady had served as
pastor of the church for almost 20 years. "He just retired last year and
moved to Georgia," said Healy. Grady still owned a house at 122 Ford
Street in Newark, where the alleged crimes took place. (Times of Wayne
County, Jan. 27, 2003)

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_____________________________________________

A Tulare County minister admitted to molestation charges on Monday.
Sabala worked as a minister at the Four-Square Church in Dinuba.
(ABC30.com, Jan 27, 2003)

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_____________________________________________

Fort Pierce, FL. Pastor Kenneth Johnson, recently convicted of having
sex with a minor, and Friendship Missionary Baptist Church -- where he
reportedly continues to minister -- were named in a sex-abuse lawsuit
filed Tuesday. Johnson, 39, is scheduled to be sentenced Friday on one
count of unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He faces up to 15 years
on the second-degree felony. (The Tribune, January 22, 2003) .
Johnson to be sentenced Friday on 1 count of unlawful sexual activity
with minor

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Riviera Beach, FL. A prominent minister, his church and deacon have
reached a $600,000 settlement with a mentally disabled man who accused
the minister of rape. The Rev. Thomas Masters, pastor of the New
Macedonia Church of Riviera Beach, and Church Mutual, insurer for the
church, negotiated the settlement with the man, according to his
attorneys and court papers filed Monday. The man, who has the mental
capacity of a 7-year-old, attended New Macedonia and accused Masters of
coercing him to smoke crack cocaine and then raping him twice on church
property over Thanksgiving weekend in 1991. (The Palm Beach Post,
January 14, 2003)
West Palm Beach minister, church pay $600,000

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_____________________________________________

Athens, GA. Ralph Tulk, 63, was arrested Tuesday and charged with five
counts of child molestation for allegedly inappropriately touching five
children at Holy Trinity Lutheran Church over several years. He was
superintendent of the Sunday school program when some of the alleged
molestations took place and was treasurer of the church until last
month, according to police and the church. Dickerson and many other
residents of this Northeast Georgia city -- most of whom were willing to
share their thoughts about the case but not be quoted -- said they worry
about the church, but aren't yet convinced of the allegations. "This is
America, and you are innocent until proven guilty," Dickerson said.
(MSNBC.com, Jan. 11, 2003)
Town reacts to molestation charges

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New Bedford, MA. An Attleboro Jehovah's Witnesses minister, Ralph
Heroux, 74, yesterday pleaded not guilty to charges of two counts of
rape of a child and two counts of indecent assault and battery on a
child under 14. (The Standard Times, Jan. 2, 2003)
Minister charged with child rape

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_____________________________________________

PROVINCETOWN, RI. The pastor of an Episcopal church in Provincetown has
resigned and left town after admitting he sexually molested a teenage
boy more than 25 years ago while assigned to a Maryland parish, church
officials said. On Thursday, a 48-year-old man told the Baltimore
diocese that he was molested by Barasda, who was a priest in the
victim's parish. The abuse allegedly started in 1966, when the victim
was 14 years old, and continued for two years, Arnold said. (The Boston
Globe, 12/25/2002)
Episcopal pastor admits molestation

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_____________________________________________

Long Island, NY. James Taylor, also known as Bishop J. Andre Taylor
among his Provision of Promise Pentecostal Church congregation, was
charged with second-degree sodomy and second-degree sexual abuse.
(Newsday, December 24, 2002)
2 Pastors Charged With Abuse

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_____________________________________________

Bryan, TX. A pastor was arrested and released from jail Monday night
after he was charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child. Ford was
indicted earlier this month based on an allegation he had sexually
assaulted a teenage boy who went on a trip with the pastor to the Texas
Panhandle more than two years ago. Ford was pastor from the New Zion
Missionary Baptist Church in Bryan where he had served for 17 years.
(Bryan-College Station Eagle, Dec. 24, 2002)
pastor accused of assaulting Bryan boy arrested

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_____________________________________________

Long Island, NY. Assistant pastor Rasta Wright, a church elder at
Provision of Promise Pentecostal Church, was arrested for allegedly
sexually abusing a 14 yeard old homeless child. Wright, 25, in Central
Islip, was charged with second-degree sodomy. (Newsday, December 24,
2002)
2 Pastors Charged With Abuse

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_____________________________________________

SUMTER, S.C. - A former youth pastor here has been charged with forcing
a 12-year-old girl to perform oral sex in a hospital bathroom, police
say. Troy Glenn Clark, 34, of Lexington, N.C., has been charged with
criminal sexual conduct with a minor. (The State, Dec. 12, 2002)
Youth pastor charged with criminal sexual conduct with a minor .
bobandcarole
2006-11-19 19:55:17 UTC
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Post by bobandcarole
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by ScottyFLL
Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
Post by ScottyFLL
agree".
Hmmm. I haven't seen anyone disagree that you are a vulgar and stupid
troll-snake. Wonder why that is...
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Because we do agree that boob is a vulgar bigot and that if he wants us
to boycott WalMart most of us will just consider that an extra reason
why we should shop there for everything except those few things they
don't carry. :)
The funniest part about it being the "red state" part of the country is
generally rural
http://www.priceviewer.com/walmart_locations/
and if you don't shop at Wal-Mart you... don't shop. It's
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
those "blue state" city folk that have tons of choices and can skip
Wal-Mart.
I *despise Wal-Mart (long story having to do with the Katrina aftermath
I'll skip for now)
Thanks for sparing us!!
ASTERIX
2006-11-19 20:24:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by bobandcarole
Thanks for sparing us!!
We need to keep protecting right wing pedophile clergy.

Tuscon, AZ. The Rev. David Valencia, 47, assistant pastor of a
Pentecostal church is expected in court Wednesday on rape charges issued
by Pennsylvania authorities. In Pennsylvania, Valencia was an assistant
pastor at Christ Church at Grove Farm, an interdenominational church
that uses Anglican liturgy. The pastor of Christ Church, the Rev. John
Guest, told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette that Valencia was dismissed in
late 2001 because he was found to have pornography on an office computer
after he was warned about a similar incident months earlier. (Tucson
Citizen, May 31, 2003)
Rev. David Valencia allegedly had sex with a 17-year-old girl he was
counseling

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

PORTLAND, OR. Church volunteer pleaded innocent to 26 counts of rape,
sodomy and sex abuse. Derrick Mayberry was indicted by a grand jury on
Tuesday and entered the plea on Wednesday. Mayberry, 23, was arrested
May 15 on accusations of raping two teenage girls he met while
volunteering at the New Beginnings Christian Center in northeast
Portland. The victims were 13 and 15 years old. (KOIN TV, May 29, 2003)
Church Worker, Coach Enters Plea In Sex Abuse Case
Church volunteer, coach faces sex abuse charges

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Queensland, AUS. In the small town of Seymour, townspeople are shocked
to learn that the late Anglican Fr. Sapsford molested dozens of alter
boys while he was married with children, and after his serial
molestation at another church was revealed in 1996. There are
allegations by the parents of the victim boys that the Archbishop
covered up the original allegations. The church is not compensating
victims while they consult with legal counsel. Anglican Father Walliker
says he is not shocked as he has seen this before in the Anglican
Church. (ABC online, May 8, 2003)
Cover-up left paedophile to prey on Vic altar boys

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

NEWARK, N.J. A convicted sex offender who was named pastor of a city
church several weeks ago has been removed from the post. Shiloh Baptist
Church leaders had hired the Rev. Chavalis T. Williams in mid-March,
even though they knew he had pleaded guilty in Florida to charges of
child abuse and using children in a sexual performance. (Newsday, May 7,
2003)
Convicted sex offender removed as pastor of Newark church

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Unidentified clergyman in Norway defends himself by accusing boys of
pestering him to provide pornography to them and pulling their pants
down for him. Criminal defendants in Norway are not identified by name.
(Nordlys, April 30, 2003)
Clergyman says boredom led him to child porn

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

An associate pastor of a San Fernando Valley chapel was sentenced to 32
months in prison on Tuesday for failing to register as a sex offender.
Ilger, a former second-grade teacher, was convicted in 1988 of molesting
four students in his San Luis Obispo classroom. After being released
from jail, Ilger and his family moved to Los Angeles, where he took a
position with Hope Chapel of the Valley in Canoga Park. "We've lived and
learned a painful lesson," the Rev. Jeff Fischer of Hope Chapel said
outside court. Fischer has said he and about 30 church elders knew that
Ilger had molested young girls before he was hired.
Sentencing (Associated Press, April 3, 2003)

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Marty A. Hynes, 33, is charged with eight counts of criminal sexual
contact of a minor, three counts of criminal sexual penetration of a
minor and one count of attempted criminal sexual contact of a minor.
Hynes was a youth pastor at the First Assembly of God church when the
alleged incidents occurred, between July and December 2001. (Las Cruces
Sun-News, March 24, 2003)
Trial of former youth pastor begins

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Milpitas, CA. A secretary to a LDS Bishop has admitted to sexually
molesting four children, and will be sentenced to 14 years in prison.
Craig Allen Harward, 54, pleaded guilty Monday to three counts of lewd
and lascivious acts on children under the age of 14, and no contest to a
fourth count of the same charge, Four of the case with the most
convincing evidence involved four boys -- two of whom were 10, one 11
and another 13 years old at the time they were molested. (SAan Fransisco
Chronicle, March 12, 2003)
Child molester pleads guilty

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Visalia, CA -- A 38-year-old Visalia man who was a leader in a local
Jehovah's Witness congregation may face up to 16 years in prison on
charges of sexually molesting a 12-year-old congregation member. Louis
Anguiano served until last year as an elder at the Kingdom Hall of
Jehovah's Witnesses at 5310 Caldwell Ave. He is accused of continuous
sexual abuse, over a two-year period, of a girl who attended the same
congregation. (The Fresno Bee, January 30, 2003)
Visalian who was a Jehovah's Witness leader accused by girl, 12.

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Tinley Park, IL. For the second time in two weeks, a Baptist pastor from
New Lenox has been charged with molesting a child - and prosecutors said
they are looking for more victims. Dennis Larry Shaw, 53, of the 2100
block of Sanford Drive, New Lenox, was charged Monday with aggravated
criminal sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl, according to the Will
County state's attorney's office. On Jan. 31, Shaw was arrested on
similar charges after a parishioner's 12-year-old daughter alleged she
was fondled by the pastor inside the church between October and
December, prosecutors said. (Daily Southtown, February 11, 2003)
Minister again charged with molestation

________________________________________________________________________
_____________________________________________

Dayton, OH. A Trotwood minister, whose lawyer said he has been a "sex
addict" since age 10, sought treatment rather than face trial in a
Brookville police-run Internet sting that presented a virtual
14-year-old boy in a chat room. But a Montgomery County judge denied his
plea for treatment Tuesday. Turner's attorney, Dwight Brannon, wrote "He
had his first sexual experience with another male at the age of 19 while
in college. Shortly after he began surfing the Web . . . his addiction
slowly began to grow." Turner had been pastor of Anchor Community
Church, 38 S. Fairgreen Drive, for seven years when he was arrested last

summer. (Dayton Daily News, 01.29.2003)
Minister arrested in police-run Internet sting

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Lyons, NY. Former Lyons Minister Sentenced to 1 1/3 -3 years in State
Prison. The retired minister of the Mount Zion Baptist Church in Lyons
was sen-tenced to 1 1/3 to 3 years in state prisonon Tuesday (1/14).
Grady O. KempSr., age 65, ofWadley, Georgia, pled guilty to a reduced
crime of Course of Sexual Conduct Against a Child in the 2nd Degree-a
Class D Felony on December 12, 2002, sparing the step-daughter from
testifying. Kemp, when completing his prison term, must regis-ter as a
sexual predator. He had been indicted by a Wayne County Grand Jury in
July of last year, for one count of Sexual Mischief in the 1st Degree, 4
counts of Rape in the 2nd Degree, 2 counts of Rape in the 3rd Degree, 4
counts of Sex Abuse in the 2nd Degree, 2 counts of Sex Abuse in the 3rd
Degree and one count of Sodomy in the 2nd Degree, involving a step
daughter. Grady had been arrested on July 31, 2002. It is alleged that
the sexual activity with a step daughter began when the girl was 9 years
old and continued until she was 14. "He had sexual contact with the girl
hundreds of times," said Wayne County District Attorney, Rick Healy. The
incidents came to light when the girl, now 16 years old, began fidgeting
and praying. The next day the girlbegan crying and screaming at a family
gathering and said she could not hold it back any longer. The girl's
mother and Kemp's former wife, Lynda Kemp, said she and her daughter now
live in Panama City, Florida. According to Healy, Grady had served as
pastor of the church for almost 20 years. "He just retired last year and
moved to Georgia," said Healy. Grady still owned a house at 122 Ford
Street in Newark, where the alleged crimes took place. (Times of Wayne
County, Jan. 27, 2003)

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A Tulare County minister admitted to molestation charges on Monday.
Sabala worked as a minister at the Four-Square Church in Dinuba.
(ABC30.com, Jan 27, 2003)

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Fort Pierce, FL. Pastor Kenneth Johnson, recently convicted of having
sex with a minor, and Friendship Missionary Baptist Church -- where he
reportedly continues to minister -- were named in a sex-abuse lawsuit
filed Tuesday. Johnson, 39, is scheduled to be sentenced Friday on one
count of unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He faces up to 15 years
on the second-degree felony. (The Tribune, January 22, 2003) .
Johnson to be sentenced Friday on 1 count of unlawful sexual activity
with minor
Miriam Cohen
2006-11-19 01:58:26 UTC
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Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
"WE"?
Who is "we"?
Nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
Post by bobandcarole
You only speak for yourself faggot.
I'm speaking for nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
Post by bobandcarole
That's your problem, you think you're the spokeswoman for the group and
you're not.
I can speak for whoever I like. Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
agree". Until they do, we can just assume that they agree (because
nearly 100% of people who post here do indeed know that you are vulgar
beyond description).
I agree on all counts. :)
--
L'Chaim

Miriam

In the beginning
the Word already was.
Benyamin H C'''ramer
2006-11-20 07:34:36 UTC
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Post by Miriam Cohen
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
"WE"?
Who is "we"?
Nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
Post by bobandcarole
You only speak for yourself faggot.
I'm speaking for nearly 100% of the people who post to this newsgroup.
Post by bobandcarole
That's your problem, you think you're the spokeswoman for the group and
you're not.
I can speak for whoever I like. Anyone who disagrees can post "I don't
agree". Until they do, we can just assume that they agree (because
nearly 100% of people who post here do indeed know that you are vulgar
beyond description).
I agree on all counts. :)
Fuck off, you despicable little jew slag.
John Baker
2006-11-18 02:32:26 UTC
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On 17 Nov 2006 15:51:22 -0800, "bobandcarole"
Post by bobandcarole
Post by ScottyFLL
Post by bobandcarole
I don't shop at Walmart because of the low class clientele.
Having knowledge of the class of their clientele is precisely why we
know that you DO, indeed, shop there.
"WE"?
Who is "we"?
You only speak for yourself faggot.
That's your problem, you think you're the spokeswoman for the group and
you're not.
Most people don't like you, faggot.
I like Scotty a hell of a lot better than I like you, cockmuncher.
Post by bobandcarole
Still waiting for your "lawsuit"...LOL
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Disney had to be told over
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Skipping through cartoon land is the last thing any intelligent adult
would want to do anyway.
Not when there's drinking and fishing to do..

Pau
John Baker
2006-11-17 16:08:09 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:37:32 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Wal-Mart faces boycott for promoting homosexual agenda
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
As much as people love to hate Wal-Mart for whatever reasons, they'll
still shop there for the simple reason that it's easy on the wallet.

Faced with a choice between patronizing a store they don't
particularly like and paying twice as much for the same item somewhere
else, most people will opt to save the bucks.
a***@home.com
2006-11-18 12:41:30 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:37:32 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Wal-Mart faces boycott for promoting homosexual agenda
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Thats not exactly accurate.
Disney knew they were being boycotted on the front end but got
confused due to the fact that they had to turn so many people away
because a multitude of boycott monitors had booked up all the hotel
rooms and bought five day passes months in advance so they could be
there to keep up with the progress of the boycott.
You need to get your facts straight.
And as far as Walmart goes maybe something is going on there because
they did kick me out for being a "Queer sort of fellow" (Which is what
they wrote on the eviction notice they served me with) because I like
to go to market wearing nothing but my pink undies and spikes and
loudly sing show tunes while shopping.
I'm thinking about filing a lawsuit if I ever sober up enough to find
a lawyer and go to court.
(I don't think the color of somebody's undies or their taste in music
is any of their damned business or a good and legal reason for banning
someone from their store).
And who the hell are these bobandcarole characters?
Didn't they ever hear the old saying, a favorite among shrinks btw,
that, "Methinks the lady protests too much?"
Law enforcement calls it "Building a blind."
If somebody is involved in illicit activities or has illicit desires
they often complain very loudly, expressing their obsessive opposition
regarding certain matters in order to distract from or conceal
their own interest in such things.
Its really none of my business but I wouldn't trust either of thse
folks.
There's something fishy about their whole routine.
Who the hell knows what sorts of things are going on in their bedrooms
or their minds when nobody is looking?
I don't trust them.
But maybe thats just me.
Too suspicious I suppose.

***@home#1554
a***@home.com
2006-11-19 01:56:21 UTC
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Post by John Baker
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:37:32 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Wal-Mart faces boycott for promoting homosexual agenda
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Thats not exactly accurate.
Disney knew they were being boycotted on the front end but got
confused due to the fact that they had to turn so many people away
because a multitude of boycott monitors had booked up all the hotel
rooms and bought five day passes months in advance so they could be
there to keep up with the progress of the boycott.
You need to get your facts straight.
You did know that was a cynical joke right?

***@home31554
Robibnikoff
2006-11-20 15:53:20 UTC
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Post by John Baker
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:37:32 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Wal-Mart faces boycott for promoting homosexual agenda
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Thats not exactly accurate.
Disney knew they were being boycotted on the front end but got
confused due to the fact that they had to turn so many people away
because a multitude of boycott monitors had booked up all the hotel
rooms and bought five day passes months in advance so they could be
there to keep up with the progress of the boycott.
You need to get your facts straight.
And as far as Walmart goes maybe something is going on there because
they did kick me out for being a "Queer sort of fellow" (Which is what
they wrote on the eviction notice they served me with) because I like
to go to market wearing nothing but my pink undies and spikes and
loudly sing show tunes while shopping.
You know; you almost had me going there ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
a***@home.com
2006-11-21 22:07:13 UTC
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 10:53:20 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
Post by Robibnikoff
Post by John Baker
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:37:32 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
Post by Mark K. Bilbo
Wal-Mart faces boycott for promoting homosexual agenda
Will Wal-Mart notice they're being boycotted? Disney had to be told over
and over again they were being boycotted or they wouldn't have known...
Thats not exactly accurate.
Disney knew they were being boycotted on the front end but got
confused due to the fact that they had to turn so many people away
because a multitude of boycott monitors had booked up all the hotel
rooms and bought five day passes months in advance so they could be
there to keep up with the progress of the boycott.
You need to get your facts straight.
And as far as Walmart goes maybe something is going on there because
they did kick me out for being a "Queer sort of fellow" (Which is what
they wrote on the eviction notice they served me with) because I like
to go to market wearing nothing but my pink undies and spikes and
loudly sing show tunes while shopping.
You know; you almost had me going there ;)
They caught me in the pet section where I was buying food for my
gerbils ;-)


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Andrealphus
2006-11-17 22:44:35 UTC
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NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
LOL! Oh no! Another fruitless religious boycott! Hahahahahaha!
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
a***@home.com
2006-11-18 13:10:47 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 22:44:35 GMT, "Andrealphus"
Post by Andrealphus
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
LOL! Oh no! Another fruitless religious boycott! Hahahahahaha!
Lol!
Fruitless?
Now that's funny ;-)

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Robibnikoff
2006-11-20 15:50:28 UTC
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Post by Andrealphus
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
LOL! Oh no! Another fruitless religious boycott! Hahahahahaha!
D'oh!

Good one ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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Doc Smartass
2006-11-18 01:13:12 UTC
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The way you religious fucknuts "punished" Disney for their gay day, I
predict you'll be reduced to the same tactic you're always reduced to:

Screech about it, hold your breath while the rest of us ignore you, then
declare victory and go home.

Save your breath and go home to be with Carl, goofball.
--
Doc Smartass

"Bullshit repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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Bob and Carole can't even afford to shop there...so they say they'r
"boycotting" and at least get a good stiffie on themselves

Pau
--
Gabby
2006-11-19 12:57:29 UTC
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NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
By ZACK HUDSON
Friday, November 17, 2006
"The homosexual community isn't going to shop at Wal-Mart. That's
not where they shop," said Rev. Phillip Benham, '
Yeah, because of course there are no poor or middle class gays &
lesbians who like to save money.

Gabby

G
Al Garvin
2006-11-19 13:51:30 UTC
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Post by Gabby
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
By ZACK HUDSON
Friday, November 17, 2006
"The homosexual community isn't going to shop at Wal-Mart. That's
not where they shop," said Rev. Phillip Benham, '
Yeah, because of course there are no poor or middle class gays &
lesbians who like to save money.
Gabby
G
I recently found out what the homosexual agenda is. It's shocking.

6:00 am Gym
8:00 am Breakfast (oatmeal and egg whites)
9:00 am Hair appointment
10:00 am Shopping
12:00 PM Brunch

2:00 PM
1) Assume complete control of the U.S. Federal, State and
Local Governments as well as all other national
governments,
2) Recruit all straight youngsters to our debauched lifestyle,
3) Destroy all healthy heterosexual marriages,
4) Replace all school counselors in grades K-12 with agents of
Colombian and Jamaican drug cartels,
5) Establish planetary chain of "homo breeding gulags" where
over-medicated imprisoned straight women are turned into
artificially impregnated baby factories to produce
prepubescent love slaves for our devotedly
pederastic gay leadership,
6) bulldoze all houses of worship, and
7) Secure total control of the INTERNET and all mass media for
the exclusive use of child pornographers.

2:30 PM Get forty winks of beauty rest to prevent facial wrinkles
from stress of world conquest
4:00 PM Cocktails
6:00 PM Light Dinner (soup, salad, with Chardonnay)
8:00 PM Theater
11:00 PM Bed (du jour)?
satyr
2006-11-23 16:51:06 UTC
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On 17 Nov 2006 05:46:23 -0800, "bobandcarole"
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
By ZACK HUDSON
Friday, November 17, 2006
"The homosexual community isn't going to shop at Wal-Mart. That's
not where they shop,"
OTOH, it is like Mecca for white trash hillbillies.
Post by bobandcarole
said Rev. Phillip Benham, whose organization
tasks itself with combating the agendas of Muslims, abortion rights
groups, and gay men and lesbians.
But Wal-Mart officials are betting otherwise with a new wave of stores
opening in major metropolitan markets throughout the United States -
including the first Wal-Mart location inside Atlanta, which opened Oct.
18 on Howell Mill Drive in gay-centric Midtown.
Oh, that is too bad. And just when they had appeased the Christian
Supremacists:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47358

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=consumer&id=4746966&ft=lg

They will find that you ultimately cannot appease extremists without
alienating the majority of your customers, one minority at a time.
Most people are white. Most people are straight. Most people are
Christian. Most people are between 25 and 60 and most of them are
married with kids.

But most people are not straight, white, Christians between 25 and 60,
married with kids. And this is especially true in urban centers.
Post by bobandcarole
Now Benham is promoting a nationwide boycott and demonstration against
Wal-Mart during the Thanksgiving weekend shopping free-for-all.
Still, I guess we gotta thank Flip. Anybody working against Wal*Mart
at this point really is doing the Lord's work, even if he is motivated
by hatred.

No doubt he will take credit for the bad sales season at Wal*Mart this
year (as widely predicted by analysts who have never heard of Flip
Benham.) The real problem is that Wal*Mart has sucked its rural
clientele dry and must now move into more metropolitan areas, hence
their new, more gay-friendly policies. Wal*Mart is already facing
fierce resistance to its business practices in urban and rural areas
alike. The last thing they need is a boycott to push them into
adopting some anti-gay bullshit that will smack Mayor Daley in the
face.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
âlant.org
2006-11-23 20:51:56 UTC
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Post by IAAH
On 17 Nov 2006 05:46:23 -0800, "bobandcarole"
Post by bobandcarole
NATIONAL NEWS
Wal-Mart faces boycott
Preacher says retailer 'blackmailed by homosexual agenda'
By ZACK HUDSON
Friday, November 17, 2006
"The homosexual community isn't going to shop at Wal-Mart. That's
not where they shop,"
OTOH, it is like Mecca for white trash hillbillies.
We are tolerant and won't hold that
you're white trash hillbilly against you, boy.

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