Post by matt001 Post by matt001 Post by old man joe Post by matt001
Post by raven1
Thanks for once again demonstrating that you worship the Bible, not
God.- Hide quoted text -
"Less religion, more light" and "Old Man Joe" are the same person--a
complete looney tune.
need to make a personal attack to hide your inferiority complex ?
It was an honest mistake. As for "inferiority complexes", you respond
to what you characterize as a personal attack with a personal attack.
bringing your attention to your motive of replying off topic is hardly a personal attack.
I disagree. Your reply was every bit as "ad hominem" as my own post;
perhaps more so
of the matter is that you can not supply a single passage of Holy Scripture where God commands us to
make graven images of Himself nor dead humans and pray to them. but you decided to speak out
anyway, off topic, and use my post as a spring board for a personal attack.
I am growing tired of repeating myself. You and I have completely
different understandings of what the bible is, how to interpret it,
etc. Given this, it makes no sense for us to fire scripture verses at
each other. Are you able to understand this?
an amazing statement, indeed. all of the elect believe the same things as far as Holy Scripture is
concerned, Jn. 16:13. on the other hand, you talk only out of your own imagination... and upon this
your denomination is founded, not the Bible.
case in point, you haven't offered any Holy Scripture to counter what God says in His Word
concerning the worship of dead people, their body parts, and all of the graven images the Orthodox
are famous for worshiping. so it's far, far away from the truth for you to say we " fire scripture
verses at each other. " you're not offering any Scripture whatsoever in reply to my original post.
Post by matt001
this is exactly how idol worshipers react to the God of the Bible, Dan.3... they try to justify
themselves at the expense of the poster... this comes from their feeling inferior within themselves.
Idol worshippers in the book of Daniel tried to justify themselves "at
the expense of the poster"? ROTFL
At the risk of being tiresonely repetitive, I don't care how you
interpret passages of scripture and attempt to apply them others. I do
not agree with you as to what scripture is and how to interpret it. Do
in Daniel 3, the idol worshipers want the elect dead. in Orthodoxy, the idol worshipers want the
elect dead... simply because the idol worshipers want a religion based on idol worship. they hate
every Word of God since the Word of God condemns idol worshipers to the Lake of Fire, Rev. 21:8, and
God labels them not only as idol worshipers but also as homosexuals, 1 Cor. 6:9,10.
again, you have not supplied a single passage out of Holy Scripture where God commands us to worship
dead people, their body parts, dead Mary, and graven images of these and more. the Bible has no use
in Orthodoxy since it is not obeyed.
Post by matt001 Post by matt001 Post by old man joe
and you still haven't supplied a
single verse of Holy Scripture whereas God commands us to pray to dead people and serve idols of
them. who then is kidding who ?
I have already told you that I do not intend to exchange proof texts
with you. You use the bible as if it were a sort of magical oracle. In
fact, your approach to it is very similar to that of an extreme muslim
to the Qur'an.
here again you've changed the subject to off topic... you respond to a subject line saying the
Orthodox can not supply a verse out of Holy Scripture where God commands us to make graven images
and change the Bible to a " magical oracle. " the subject calls for Holy Scripture to answer the
charge but you've instead called God's Word a filthy name... you blaspheme your way through a false
religion which is common among idol worshipers.
You are, as usual, very quick to condemn and label others. I never
said that the bible is a magic oracle, but that you treat it as one.
As to your comment "the subject calls for Holy Scripture to answer the
charge", I will repear myself yet again. The Holy Scriptures make no
"charge", only you do. I will not exchange scripture passages with
you say so but i'm only following what God commands the elect to do... and that is... to shame idol
worshipers, Eph. 5:11-13. so you are wrong to say " the Holy Scriptures make no charge, only you
do. " there it is in black and white in Eph. 5:11-13... but so is God's command not to worship dead
people, their body parts, relics and God by graven images of Him in black and white.
Post by matt001
i doubt if you know anything about " extreme Muslim's. " you simply attend a religion based on the
word of man and not the Word of God, the Bible, and because you have nothing to do with the Bible
you speak down to it. it's a " magical oracle " in your system of beliefs.
This is all just an attempt to deflect criticism, so I will not
respond except to say that I do not "talk down to the bible"--I simply
refuse to demean it by discussing it with you.
you protect idol worship and this is completely contrary to the Word of God to have anything to do
with idols, 1 Jn. 5:21. this is how you demean God's Word... by presenting yourself as Christian
when not a passage of Holy Scripture commands us to worship dead people and idols of them.
Orthodoxy is a religion based on the worship of the dead. it teaches children that the way to God
in Christ is through the worship of the dead and graven images of the dead. God commands this be
exposed, Eph. 5:11-13. and this is why you take offense at the Word of God and anyone posting the
Word of God where God speaks in the Bible against idol worshipers.
Post by matt001 Post by matt001
Magic is magic, even when it tries to masquerade as Christianity.
" magic " is what idol worship is all about. making statues and pictures of dead people and giving
to the dead the attributes of the Living God. its all over the Internet... the Orthodox worship
pictures of Mary and give to her the attributes of God. to suppose she hears from heaven, is magic.
Again, an utter refusal to consider the possibility that what was
written applies to you, by attempting to turn the criticism around and
aim it at others. I don't care what you think about my faith. Whether
or not I am, in your opinion, an idol worshipper does not change the
fact that you are definitely one and that you have turned the bible
into an idol.
here again when the Word of God commands us to reprove idol worshipers the idol worshipers take
offense and try to make anyone posting out of God's Word His condemnation of idol worshipers the bad
guy. this is quite normal since idol worshipers, from childhood, are taught by other idol
worshipers that idol worship is the way to salvation.
Post by matt001
idol worshipers are not redeemed in the here and now, 1 Cor. 6:9,10, and will have their part in the
Lake of Fire, Rev.21:8. this is why they get their religious " truth " from other idol worshipers.
they will have nothing to do with the Bible except to troll out of it names and parts of doctrines
as this respondent demonstrates by his defense of idol worship... all of the glory due the Living
God goes instead, to idols
You make the pope look humble. You have set yourself up as a judge and
spend your time condemning others, using your idol, which you believe
that you are capable of interpretaing and understanding without error.
BTW, which protestant translation of the Scriptures do you use? Are
you capable of reading them in the original languages? And to
forstall your repsonse, yes, I know both Hebrew and Greek.
the pope is an idol worshiper... that's no secret.
again, God commands us to reprove idol worshipers, Eph. 5:11-13.
if you find that this too offends your practice of mixing idols in with what Christianity is all
about, then why not offer a passage where God commands us to serve graven images instead of beating
around the bush ? justify your great claims of idol worship being God's Commandment for us to do
out of the Holy Scripture.
if you knew Hebrew and Greek as far as the Word of God is concerned, you wouldn't be defending idol
worship. but what i am makes no difference, its what does the Bible say that counts. in either
language God's Word is written in, idol worship is condemned by Him. idol worshipers are just as
condemned in * every * language the Word of God is translated into. there's no getting around this.
the charge of the Holy Scriptures being my idol is interesting. here we have a respondent who
offers only the word of man in response to God's Word telling us idol worshipers will terminate in
the Lake of Fire since they are not redeemed, Rev. 21:8 and 1 Cor. 6:9,10, and then the respondent
turns the Word of God into an idol. this is how the respondent views the Word of God... as just
so, if you have a passage telling us from the Bible where God commands us to serve graven images of
dead people, their body parts, their relics and even graven images of God Himself, please do share
them instead of avoiding the charge made in my original post. so far, you've avoided such. you've
just went round and round avoiding God's Word. when will you produce a passage where God commands
us to serve graven images of dead people, their body parts, their so called relics and even graven
images of Himself ?